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Old 04-18-2017 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Who are these people????
I am sure he has an NRA sticker on his pickup truck and a Make America Great Again hat in the window.........

The illiteratati has consumed our country.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX
You're being obtuse. The whole reason TSA and airport security measures exist is because of the fact that the actions of a few bad characters
effect millions.
Yes, such as the 09/11 hijackers.

The screening worked. The firearm was detected, the pilot arrested. No buildings fell. The world did not come to a screeching halt. Time did not stand still, and you're still here.

Has the sky fallen yet?

Get a rope. Someone burn a cross, and dont forget to throw eggs and toilet paper at the guy's garage. No need for the police when there are airline keyboard commandos on patrol, ready to shame on a moment's notice. Thank God you're here. This guy nearly got away with it.

Shame. Shame on him. A moment of silence, if you will, so that the more self-righteous among us may focus on their anger and hate.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Yes, such as the 09/11 hijackers.

The screening worked. The firearm was detected, the pilot arrested. No buildings fell. The world did not come to a screeching halt. Time did not stand still, and you're still here.

Has the sky fallen yet?

Get a rope. Someone burn a cross, and dont forget to throw eggs and toilet paper at the guy's garage. No need for the police when there are airline keyboard commandos on patrol, ready to shame on a moment's notice. Thank God you're here. This guy nearly got away with it.

Shame. Shame on him. A moment of silence, if you will, so that the more self-righteous among us may focus on their anger and hate.
Troll. You're looking for a fight. Not getting one from me.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Yes, such as the 09/11 hijackers.

The screening worked. The firearm was detected, the pilot arrested. No buildings fell. The world did not come to a screeching halt. Time did not stand still, and you're still here.

Has the sky fallen yet?

Get a rope. Someone burn a cross, and dont forget to throw eggs and toilet paper at the guy's garage. No need for the police when there are airline keyboard commandos on patrol, ready to shame on a moment's notice. Thank God you're here. This guy nearly got away with it.

Shame. Shame on him. A moment of silence, if you will, so that the more self-righteous among us may focus on their anger and hate.
The screening didn't work. He successfully circumvented security in NOLA at KCM. They won't hesitate to get rid of KCM if it poses a security risk.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:48 AM
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JohnBurke, you are stuck in your own world. The actions of the WN pilot clearly affect all of us, and not in a good way. That's more than obvious to the most of us. Your rebuttal is purely emotional and void of any intelligent or analytical argument defending our gun toting colleague.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
On the bright side, at least it wasn't a UAL pilot!
Good point

And it wasn't the SAME level of stupidity at first, just later. But there WAS that UAL pilot that forgot he had ammo in his bag on trip to Europe. Tried to throw it in the trash without the FA's knowing about it/saying something. THEN decides to flush it in the lav.

A prime example of not really making a simple mistake, it's in how galatacally stupid one handles said mistake....
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Old 04-18-2017 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Good point

And it wasn't the SAME level of stupidity at first, just later. But there WAS that UAL pilot that forgot he had ammo in his bag on trip to Europe. Tried to throw it in the trash without the FA's knowing about it/saying something. THEN decides to flush it in the lav.
Dont be ridiculous. If it were a UAL pilot, he'd have planted it on a paying passenger and had the poor bastard dragged off the airplane kicking and screaming.

This was New York, remember, a communist state where people are hanged, then drawn and quarted for having thought of drawing a picture of a firearm.

One guy and a mistake doth not a program destroy.

There are a few here chomping at the bit to destroy him, however.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Was the pilot not arrested? It's been addressed.
I don't think the "addressing" is done. There will probably be some "addressing" on how he could have possibly gotten to ALB with a gun in his bag.

Originally Posted by JohnBurke
You're the thought police now? Mind your own business.
My business involves using KCM. Don't know if your's does. I mind.

Originally Posted by JohnBurke
The guy made a mistake for which he will pay, especially in New York
I'm sure he will pay for his mistake. I hope I don't have to pay for his mistake elsewhere in the system when I transit KCM in uniform.

Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Life's too short to take offense every time someone else in the profession does something you don't like.
"Offense" is too strong a word, but I think your premise ignores the repercussions of a dumb thing done by an airline pilot.

I've never flown a Q400, nor responded inappropriately to a stall warning, yet I undergo refresher training each year to satisfy regulator's concerns that I might do something dumb in such a situation. I've never slept in a crew lounge overnight then shown up for my trip fatigued, but I have new regulations to address concerns that I might suddenly disregard human physiology and common sense and so just that.

So yeah, there's something here that bothers me.

Perhaps you don't need to take offense to pilots who view this as something that could impact us all.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bay982
This makes me mad. It makes us all look like we're either crazy or stupid.

Southwest Airlines pilot arrested with a loaded gun at TSA checkpoint - Business Insider

This doesn't make us all look crazy or stupid. There are 60k+ airline pilots in the US, stuff is going to happen. Learn to understand probabilities/statistics.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Karnak
I'm sure he will pay for his mistake. I've never flown a Q400, nor responded inappropriately to a stall warning, yet I undergo refresher training each year to satisfy regulator's concerns that I might do something dumb in such a situation
Ehhhhh, not so sure thats a valid one.

BEFORE the Colgan, every training/checking event we went through had the completely stupid/unrealistic stall "training" PTS standards from decades ago that weren't AT ALL real world.

After that, airlines adopted much more realistic/real world training to deal with stall recovery.
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