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Old 07-03-2019 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kevair464
So would you be for allowing people to be nude at the airport? Have sex in right in the middle of the terminal? I mean neither of those things "hurt anyone"......Hell lets open a Spearmint Rhino in the middle of DFW, put on some burlesque shows at ORD....
A drag show doesn’t violate New Jersey (or any other state) public exposure/indecency laws. I don’t know why you think a fashion show is analogous to public sex, anyway.
Old 07-03-2019 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kevair464

Someone can be completely ok with Drag Queens, and the Pride Movement in general, but ALSO be not ok with it being performed in the middle of a public airline terminal. I've been to drag reviews, they are hilarious and quite entertaining, but I'd never think it something appropriate to be in the middle of a public space.

Just my 2 cents...
That’s fine. Hold that opinion. Just don’t try to justify it as:

1) it’s indecent (it isn’t, it’s a fashion show and there’s no more nudity (likely less) involved than on the movie monitor in the seat next to you
2)it’s exclusive (it isn’t, anyone is welcome)
3) it’s dangerous for kids to know that males sometimes dress in ways different than social norms suggest (it isn’t, it’s easy to explain and won’t even make your kids gay)
4)it’s forcing anything upon you (it isn’t)
5)the company shouldn’t do anything irrelevant to actual airplane movement

All of these justifications have been used in these threads. Come up with a decent justification that isn’t based in veiled homophobia and I’ll agree that it isn’t the place to celebrate your employees during a month of celebration.

Note: for those of you who feel attacked, I have not said you are homophobes, I simply think the justifications used this far in these two threads are flawed justifications. It’s a criticism of the opinion, not the person.
Old 07-03-2019 | 12:27 PM
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That’s fine. Hold that opinion. Just don’t try to justify it as:

1) it’s indecent (it isn’t, it’s a fashion show and there’s no more nudity (likely less) involved than on the movie monitor in the seat next to you
2)it’s exclusive (it isn’t, anyone is welcome)
3) it’s dangerous for kids to know that males sometimes dress in ways different than social norms suggest (it isn’t, it’s easy to explain and won’t even make your kids gay)
4)it’s forcing anything upon you (it isn’t)
5)the company shouldn’t do anything irrelevant to actual airplane movement

All of these justifications have been used in these threads. Come up with a decent justification that isn’t based in veiled homophobia and I’ll agree that it isn’t the place to celebrate your employees during a month of celebration.

Note: for those of you who feel attacked, I have not said you are homophobes, I simply think the justifications used this far in these two threads are flawed justifications. It’s a criticism of the opinion, not the person.
Homophobia! Now, THAT'S
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Old 07-03-2019 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
A drag show doesn’t violate New Jersey (or any other state) public exposure/indecency laws.
No one is talking about laws, we are talking about common and public decency... societal norms.

Are you really this dense, or are you being intentionally obtuse?
Old 07-03-2019 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
No one is talking about laws, we are talking about common and public decency... societal norms.

Are you really this dense, or are you being intentionally obtuse?
Laws kinda exist as the line we’ve all drawn in the sand about indecency with specific definitions, but that was beside the point:

I don’t know why you think a drag show is analogous to public sex
Old 07-03-2019 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Laws kinda exist as the line we’ve all drawn in the sand about indecency with specific definitions
If you think morality has anything to do with legality, or vice versa, then you clearly haven't given it any serious or critical thought.
Old 07-04-2019 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
If you think morality has anything to do with legality, or vice versa, then you clearly haven't given it any serious or critical thought.
I like the part where you ignore the second half of my posts twice
Old 07-04-2019 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
When have I ever made a personal attack? When have I ever reported a post?
You’ve made plenty of personal attacks and links have been provided multiple times yet you ignored them.
Old 07-04-2019 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Neither you or any other poster provided any link. My offer stands, and I’ve never had any other username here
That’s a lie because links have been provided by at least one other poster and myself yet you’re still here.
Old 07-04-2019 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Who is excluded from anything by allowing people to do what they wish (provided nobody is hurt) without negativity?
Your definition of inclusive is excluding those who disagree with you. Ironically that’s not inclusive at all.
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