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Old 01-17-2021, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Squeakygreaser View Post
I didn't say he was level headed, just on the more level headed end of the spectrum of the people in that room.

It's a very low bar.

I don't think he'll do more than a few months. A year tops.
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My guess is that they'll save the prison time for those who can actually be convicted of violence or maybe vandalism. The trespassers who can be identified will get fined.

The incoming administration will not want to create martyrs. These guys are very similar to antifa except for one very significant detail: There are whole lot more where those came from, and the really competent ones stayed home on Jan 6. Best if they continue to stay home...

Perhaps the nation's angst can be settled down if the new guy treads lightly.
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:25 AM
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Perhaps the nation's angst can be settled down if the new guy treads lightly.
yeah, nothing helps calm extremist lunatics like appeasement.
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Squeakygreaser View Post
https://www.newyorker.com/news/video...-capitol-siege

Some good footage that gives context to the photos in the Senate of the ex mil. Pilot.

This video will definitely benefit him in court. He is actually one of the more level headed sounding people in there.
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A man trespasses on to the senate floor in riot gear and polices the “sanctity” of an empty chair.
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
They FAA rarely uses that, and when they do it's pretty much only for conviction of a serious felony.

They are not in the morality adjudication business, they don't want to be, nor should they be. By the standards assumed when "good moral character" was written into the regs homosexuality, swinging, adultery, perhaps extra-marital sex, and some religions would be grounds for revocation. Some FSDO's would be more strict than others.

Best to just leave it with felony conviction, since nobody can really argue with that.
I was being facetious.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
yeah, nothing helps calm extremist lunatics like appeasement.
It seems to have worked for antifa/BLM.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:31 AM
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It seems to have worked for antifa/BLM.
Nevermind that the mindsets are completely different between the groups so they’re not comparable, but:


Is appeasement what settled those protests/riots?
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
It seems to have worked for antifa/BLM.
If you look back in history, the things that triggered the American Revolution were fairly trivial by either the standards of that day or this. Ultimately it was more attitude and insult than actual cruelty or malice that enabled activist groups like the Sons of Liberty and propagandists like Thomas Paine to work the mobs up for a revolution.


https://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/related/sons.html

https://www.ushistory.org/Paine/


We have 330 million people in this country and over 400 million firearms. Any rational politician knows he/she ought to be working on getting things done that unite us rather than divide us.

Unfortunately rational politicians from either major party seem to be a little sparse on the ground right now.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
Nevermind that the mindsets are completely different between the groups so they’re not comparable, but:
Of course they have different agendas, but other than that they are two sides of the same coin. We're not going to debate that here, it is what it is.

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Is appeasement what settled those protests/riots?
It seems to have. They naturally burned themselves out, if they had called up the guard and had a Kent State situation it probably would have fanned the flames.
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
Nevermind that the mindsets are completely different between the groups so they’re not comparable, but:


Is appeasement what settled those protests/riots?
The mindset is literally the same.
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:28 AM
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Back on track now, we're not debating the relative merits of the various extremist groups, for purposes of this conversation we're going to assume they're all the same, ie if you're an airline pilot who is caught rioting and looting the consequences will be same regardless of your underlying ideology.
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