atpwannabe

I was looking at each airline's page on APC and it looks like some have stopped hiring; others have cut their numbers drastically; and still others are hiring only into turboprop a/c. It'll be interesting to see how all of this plays out for the rest of the year.


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mcartier713

hah yeah im freakin out, man.

atpwannabe

With the growth of international flying, there just may be some hope after all. You never know. Not everybody wants to fly internationally. That may leaves some doors open.


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rickair7777

Look on the bright side...this is a lot better than 7 years ago when 20% of the industry was out on their butts.

atpwannabe

Like the Budweiser commercial...TRUE!!!

B/c I for one, if given the opportunity to get to the Majors, would want to fly domestic even though the lure will be to go international. The more that go that way, the better...we'll just have to wait and see. However, flying domestic is just my preference. I can remember back in a Cargo thread where I asked the question of FDX guys if an FO can make 130K flying pretty much 8am-8pm, M-TH? Their response was Yes!! Guys do it every day. Whether pax or cargo...it doesn't matter. If I had my preference...pax all the way.

But you know rick, gas/oil prices aren't coming down; and airlines will return to TBP a/c. That's the route I'm taking. No matter come what may, I firmly believe that turboprop-jet a/c will make a comeback in a very strong way; and I for one am willing to and will position myself to be in the hunt and then move on to the RJ's or higher. At least.........that's the plan.



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SkyHigh

Aviation is a cycle. Just last month guys here were claiming that they were planning to enjoy being a CFI and not just jump into a regional. I warned them that like the flip of a switch all the low timer hiring could dry up overnight.

Six months from now regionals could be hemorrhaging pilots out onto the street by the thousands and then no one with less than 3000 hours and previous 121 experience will see an interview room for most of a decade.

When I got hired at a regional I was the low time guy with 3800 hours. Those days will come back.


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aerospacepilot

He's freakin out........man!



Airline hiring is very cyclical. But whatever you do, DO NOT give into fear. As one famous jedi once said... "Fear leads to the dark side." Don't drop $63,000 on flight training from ATP just so you can finish 1 month faster than if you had gone to your local FBO for $35,000. Don't take a job at Mesa, GoJet, or Gulfstream. Just continue to make good conscious decisions, and you will be fine.

Oil prices are only going up and up and up. Until we as a nation switch to alternative energy, the price of oil can only go up. And unfortunately, it seems like too many people do not want this to happen.

mcartier713

always full of positive feedback haha... i know i should have hopped on with great lakes when i had the chance. lol.

anyone know anything about planesense (alpha flying)?

SkyHigh

In time people will look back on the last few years as the golden age of regional hiring. Stories will be told for decades about 300 hour pilots who got hired straight into RJ's. The idea will seem ridiculous.

Those who took for granted low time hiring will be punished by missing out on a career or will have to endure years and years of low wage instructing and dangerous night piston cargo flying before having a chance at a good regional job.

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Ewfflyer

Not to burst your oh-so-negative bubble, but night freight isn't the worst job in the world, and by far not the most dangerous(Ag-spraying I believe still tops the list), but I digress. It was the best experience I had as far as flying, I do miss those challenging nights. I'm not saying I'd go back to it, but I did enjoy my time in that position.

Flight schools are offering people anything from $35-50k for flight instructors right now, so not all are "low-wage." There's low-wage regionals, freight, flight instructing, hell there's low-wage fractional/charter/corporate jobs too that treat their people like crap.

It's all how you look at it, and as with 99% of your posts, it's looking down instead of up.

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