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Exactly, keep in mind we have such ridiculous amounts of runway relative to what is needed, and if you ever see it, can just touch down and land and follow the yellow line + GPS assist to taxi. Can't see, missed approach and divert. Relatively low risk.
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Single engine piston in that weather is very high risk imo. If it quits you’re probably dead.
I remember multiple times being able to go take a look under 91 while airliners held and getting in easily.
Not saying it's good judgement, but it certainly was legal.
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ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 727-235 N4743 Tampa International Airport, FL (TPA)
This instance? Wasn't there, don't know what he saw. Some airliner may have blown the threshold area above mins.
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True. Met this guy a year or two before it happened. Seemed like a nice fella.
ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 727-235 N4743 Tampa International Airport, FL (TPA)
ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 727-235 N4743 Tampa International Airport, FL (TPA)
From my past Saratoga experience, at medium to light landing weights, I used less runway landing in a 757 than more than a few of the SEL guys. Once it's dialed in with trim and power on the ILS, easier to fly an ILS compared to light aircraft. More stable and less time to screw up due to higher VREF approach speed.
This instance? Wasn't there, don't know what he saw. Some airliner may have blown the threshold area above mins.
This instance? Wasn't there, don't know what he saw. Some airliner may have blown the threshold area above mins.
But yeah I've seen some SEL come in and float halfway down before settling in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmHYWjEmkY
Depends on your definition of "high risk." I would not argue with you, but I do it all the time. I would not do it in an airplane I didn't know like the back of my hand.
There are some people that carry extra speed perhaps, but the book landing for Saratoga from 50' is 1650 ft, ground roll well less than 1000 ft. In a modest headwind I routinely make a 1000 ft turnoff without much braking. I can't imagine it compares at all to a 757 when flown properly.
But yeah I've seen some SEL come in and float halfway down before settling in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmHYWjEmkY
There are some people that carry extra speed perhaps, but the book landing for Saratoga from 50' is 1650 ft, ground roll well less than 1000 ft. In a modest headwind I routinely make a 1000 ft turnoff without much braking. I can't imagine it compares at all to a 757 when flown properly.
But yeah I've seen some SEL come in and float halfway down before settling in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmHYWjEmkY
And like you said... carrying extra speed, sometimes significant extra speed to try to fit into a jet environment, and it will flow for a mile...
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True. Met this guy a year or two before it happened. Seemed like a nice fella.
ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 727-235 N4743 Tampa International Airport, FL (TPA)
ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 727-235 N4743 Tampa International Airport, FL (TPA)
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