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Old 12-15-2017, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats
You lost me at Ile.
No. He was, man. It was a really great move.
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:27 AM
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This is why you get a Cirrus.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome
... single engine is what it is. Day, night, vmc, imc: if you loose your engine you may be in a world of hurt.
If you can't differentiate the levels of pain between a day-VMC or night-IMC engine failure, you have a perception problem.

If you lose an engine, you're in a world of hurt... there is no 'may' about it.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
This is why you get a Cirrus.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
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The parachute helps a little.
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Old 12-17-2017, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The parachute helps a little.
We had to use a ladder to to get a guy out of a tree after he fudged a go-around with a torque roll. No sign of the parachute. He bought a new one. We still have the ladder.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
If you can't differentiate the levels of pain between a day-VMC or night-IMC engine failure, you have a perception problem.

If you lose an engine, you're in a world of hurt... there is no 'may' about it.
Actually yes there is a 'may' about it. As a PIC do you not have the FINAL say in the outcome of the flight you are conducting?

Consider this: if you loose your one and only engine, there is only so far you can glide, and only so many "decent" landing spots. You are typically not left with much choice (but some). Unfortunately if you loose your engine in IMC (day or night) you will likely not be able to see your best option until it is too late. Sooooo....

As the PIC of an aircraft in an emergency, what resources are you utilizing? There is your passengers, ATC, copy of your weather briefing (you did get one didn't you?). There are many resources available to you.

I believe of the FAA's 5 hazardous attitudes, yours would be resigned. Yes it is a bad thing that your engine quits in IMC at night. This in no way means that you have to be in a "world of hurt". If you following procedures, utilizing resources, relying on your training, and utilizing your brain- then there is no reason you should be in a world of hurt.

Is there a difference between day vmc and night imc? Yes, but nowhere in that equation does it mean that you relinquish your duties as PIC. You are the final say in the outcome of your flight. Don't be resigned and think that a bad situation means you are screwed.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats
You lost me at Ile.
He lost me at "loose"
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
This is why you get a Cirrus.
For the CAPS?

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Old 12-17-2017, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBlue025
He lost me at "loose"
The funny thing is he keeps doing it. I've never understood why some people have such a difficult time with that word.
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