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Old 12-15-2017 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX
Here’s the risky part;

Single engine LIFR conditions leave you one option in the event of an engine failure. That option is to set up best glide and hope there isn’t a tree, house, cow, semi truck, bridge etc in your way if/whenyou break out.

Engine out dead stick landing in 0/0 at night 20 miles from the nearest airport isn’t any fun at all. Ask me how I know.
Ok, How do you know?

Ile say this though, single engine is what it is. Day, night, vmc, imc: if you loose your engine you may be in a world of hurt. Mechanical things do give out, but thats the nature of the single engine beast. FWIW a PC12 or Caravan are single engine. They face the same prospect of loosing their 1 engine. Of course turbines are a bit more reliable. Point is that there is always some risk in flying, but where our personal minimums fall may be different. All that said, I wouldnt be doing an approach in less than 1800 rvr. If I think I can get in Ile hold for a bit and let someone eles prove my point.
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Old 12-15-2017 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome
Ok, How do you know?

Ile say this though, single engine is what it is. Day, night, vmc, imc: if you loose your engine you may be in a world of hurt. Mechanical things do give out, but thats the nature of the single engine beast. FWIW a PC12 or Caravan are single engine. They face the same prospect of loosing their 1 engine. Of course turbines are a bit more reliable. Point is that there is always some risk in flying, but where our personal minimums fall may be different. All that said, I wouldnt be doing an approach in less than 1800 rvr. If I think I can get in Ile hold for a bit and let someone eles prove my point.
You lost me at Ile.
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Old 12-15-2017 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats
You lost me at Ile.
Gilligan’s Ile? Several others were lost there too.
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Old 12-15-2017 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats
You lost me at Ile.
Well dang I hope I find you soon! Poor thing, you must be scared. Alone. Cold.

How could I have done this!?!? Especially to someone with such attention to detail and punctuation?

I feel like a monster now
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Old 12-15-2017 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats
You lost me at Ile.
No. He was, man. It was a really great move.
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Old 12-16-2017 | 03:27 AM
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This is why you get a Cirrus.
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Old 12-16-2017 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome
... single engine is what it is. Day, night, vmc, imc: if you loose your engine you may be in a world of hurt.
If you can't differentiate the levels of pain between a day-VMC or night-IMC engine failure, you have a perception problem.

If you lose an engine, you're in a world of hurt... there is no 'may' about it.
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Old 12-16-2017 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
This is why you get a Cirrus.
Doctor - Lawyer killer version 2.0
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Old 12-16-2017 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
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The parachute helps a little.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The parachute helps a little.
We had to use a ladder to to get a guy out of a tree after he fudged a go-around with a torque roll. No sign of the parachute. He bought a new one. We still have the ladder.
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