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12-19-2017 | 01:31 PM
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It is a Saratoga... really slow, and 500 RVR probably was some good vertical visibility (likely 500 ft or greater) to see lights, which is not that bad. If he did it, good for him. I don't think that is necessarily fate-tempting for a light GA aircraft.
What do you mean couldn't talk on the radio?
What do you mean couldn't talk on the radio?
12-20-2017 | 05:39 PM
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He flies a 182, so I'm guessing you're right.
Cardiomd, do you have a clue what 500 RVR actually looks like? You'd have to be completely out of your mind to try it. I have 6K hours in piston GA and Cat 1 minima are difficult enough, let alone 500 RVR.
. That's below Cat II, and you'd have to be really bored with living to want to try that.
Cardiomd, do you have a clue what 500 RVR actually looks like? You'd have to be completely out of your mind to try it. I have 6K hours in piston GA and Cat 1 minima are difficult enough, let alone 500 RVR.
. That's below Cat II, and you'd have to be really bored with living to want to try that.
12-20-2017 | 08:40 PM
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Step one when your single engine quits: pick your nearest suitable landing area.
If it’s 500rvr you cannot complete step one at any point before impact. You shouldn’t ever be there. Everything else is moot. If you are there you had very bad luck with unforecast wx or you are the tool of the day.
The Saratoga pilot is the latter I suspect. Anyone justifying him doing what he was doing should join the tool shed
If it’s 500rvr you cannot complete step one at any point before impact. You shouldn’t ever be there. Everything else is moot. If you are there you had very bad luck with unforecast wx or you are the tool of the day.
The Saratoga pilot is the latter I suspect. Anyone justifying him doing what he was doing should join the tool shed
12-21-2017 | 05:08 AM
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Step one when your single engine quits: pick your nearest suitable landing area.
If it’s 500rvr you cannot complete step one at any point before impact. You shouldn’t ever be there. Everything else is moot. If you are there you had very bad luck with unforecast wx or you are the tool of the day.
The Saratoga pilot is the latter I suspect. Anyone justifying him doing what he was doing should join the tool shed
If it’s 500rvr you cannot complete step one at any point before impact. You shouldn’t ever be there. Everything else is moot. If you are there you had very bad luck with unforecast wx or you are the tool of the day.
The Saratoga pilot is the latter I suspect. Anyone justifying him doing what he was doing should join the tool shed
12-21-2017 | 06:08 AM
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You can accept some level of risk if there is a measurable ceiling. How much time you want to give yourself when you break out is up to you. 500rvr you have zero options and therefore toolish.
12-21-2017 | 07:39 AM
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Huh? Flying IMC at 10,000' with a ceiling at 4,000' over flatlands gives you plenty of time to pick that landing spot. The lower the ceiling gets, the higher the risk level.
12-21-2017 | 08:01 AM
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12-21-2017 | 10:04 AM
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Yes but a 1000' ceiling doesn't give you much time unless you are in the Great Plains. I don't think he should be flying at 500 rvr. That's just stupid
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