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LoneStarM1A 05-01-2013 05:32 PM

GoJet captain with huge neon pink sunglasses propped up on top of his head at gate B18 in ORD at 1745 local time on May 1st 2013. He was bragging to everyone in the jetway about how cool his sunglasses were and how jealous we must all be of them. Then he yelled at some passengers for standing in the wrong spot while waiting for their gate checks.

Tool.

TurboDVR42 05-01-2013 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A (Post 1401810)
GoJet captain with huge neon pink sunglasses propped up on top of his head at gate B18 in ORD at 1745 local time on May 1st 2013. He was bragging to everyone in the jetway about how cool his sunglasses were and how jealous we must all be of them. Then he yelled at some passengers for standing in the wrong spot while waiting for their gate checks.

Tool.

Thats funny, because i think i saw his republic airways brother jump seating last week. He had his sunglasses right next to his epaulets. Some how he ended up sitting behind me, I could not help but overhear his conversation to the FA how "I can be a CA on the Q400, but who wants to fly props?"

cactusmike 05-01-2013 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1401406)
I save the personality until we are above 10,000', then I open with, "You guys screwed me in the merger!".

Always a great ice breaker.

I like that. I'll have to use it in the future I'm sure.

captjns 05-02-2013 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDVR42 (Post 1401843)
Thats funny, because i think i saw his republic airways brother jump seating last week. He had his sunglasses right next to his epaulets. Some how he ended up sitting behind me, I could not help but overhear his conversation to the FA how "I can be a CA on the Q400, but who wants to fly props?"

A true legned in his own mind, leading the trailing the ledge of technolgy.

D B Cooper 05-02-2013 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1401992)
A true legned in his own mind, leading the trailing the ledge of technolgy.

Right up there with the Republic FO, who was telling people he flew for mainline. I guess the $37 an hour rate doesn't matter.

ShyGuy 05-03-2013 09:50 PM

Guys who say they are "laid back" and then proceed to micromanage the entire flight.

labbats 05-04-2013 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1403158)
Guys who say they are "laid back" and then proceed to micromanage the entire flight.

Most dreaded first day introduction...

"Hi, I'm laid back, by the book and just want to have fun."

I've heard that 4 times and every month was an eternity.

labbats 05-04-2013 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by YLpilot (Post 1401176)
The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.

http://www.mememaker.net/static/imag...es/1776682.jpg

Sink r8 05-04-2013 09:28 AM

If someone is (actually) laid back, by definition, they're wayyyyyy beyond telling everyone.

Sink r8 05-04-2013 09:32 AM

As for the jumpseater with the motorcycle license, I would note the cockpit is certified to hold more than one tool. You want to be teen-age like in your answers, don't be surprised to find out you're still eligible for time-outs. Suck it up, don't cry on the web, even via proxies, and just have your licenses ready next time.

forgot to bid 05-04-2013 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by YLpilot (Post 1401176)
The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.

So when you were typing this out it never crossed your mind that the Captain was doing what he is required to do and your buddy was being a tool? Where are you guys flying at?

If you think we are beyond having anyone ask for a jumpseat that is not legal to ride the jumpseat you're greatly mistaken. An unauthorized jumpseater is a very big deal.

What the DAL Captain did is what every Captain whether it's a 747, CRJ700 or 1900C shall do with a jumpseater if the guy is asking to ride in the cockpit. How else do you know if they're a crewmember?

Hell, common sense says you approach that cockpit with your ID, pilot certificate, medical and pass in hand and out in front of you so that they don't have to ask for it. It's what I did as an RJ pilot traveling on mainline and as a mainline pilot traveling on an RJ.

If you don't want to do that buy a seat in the back.

berge7f9 05-18-2013 08:27 PM

Tool of the Day 5/18/2013

TSA agent A***** Sheehan who gave me - a crewmember in uniform going through TSA in order to go to work a random patdown in Harrisburg today.

Thanks for making aviation safe... eh

SailorJerry 05-18-2013 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1403387)

What the DAL Captain did is what every Captain whether it's a 747, CRJ700 or 1900C shall do with a jumpseater if the guy is asking to ride in the cockpit. How else do you know if they're a crewmember?

I must fly with the more trusting variety of DAL Captain. No more than once or twice has a CA asked for any more creds than the 1P Jumpseat card and a Crew ID.

If I'm not mistaken, you're an FO too, right? Do you ask for their medical if the CA doesn't check it?

gloopy 05-19-2013 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1412013)
I must fly with the more trusting variety of DAL Captain. No more than once or twice has a CA asked for any more creds than the 1P Jumpseat card and a Crew ID.

If I'm not mistaken, you're an FO too, right? Do you ask for their medical if the CA doesn't check it?

Trusting is a good word for it. Still doesn't justify it though. It only takes once to ruin it for everyone. And it only takes a couple seconds to check. Why wouldn't someone check?

SailorJerry 05-19-2013 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1412093)

Trusting is a good word for it. Still doesn't justify it though. It only takes once to ruin it for everyone. And it only takes a couple seconds to check. Why wouldn't someone check?

Sounds like paranoia to me. CASS, or company employee verification, is a pretty good reason why guys don't check. You can forge a pilot certificate and a medical, but you'd have a tough time hacking the CASS database and having your face pop up on a gate agents screen. I'd rather fly with a paranoid gate agent.

Skyone 05-19-2013 08:44 AM

Bottom line for the DL Captain, is, what does his FOM say about JSers? Does it say he needs to confirm that information or what.

gloopy 05-19-2013 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1412168)
Sounds like paranoia to me. CASS, or company employee verification, is a pretty good reason why guys don't check. You can forge a pilot certificate and a medical, but you'd have a tough time hacking the CASS database and having your face pop up on a gate agents screen. I'd rather fly with a paranoid gate agent.

There was an example recently that flat out proves that getting a CASS ticket printed out is not enough to stop the threat. Not going to post it here, but look around internally if you need proof.

Its bush league for a JS rider not to at least have those two simple things at least readily presentable. Takes 10 seconds, max. The stakes are far too high and the rewards of acting cool and casual about it just way too low IMHO.

It takes 10 seconds and we're required to do it anyway. Where exactly is the incentive to blow it off?

DeadHead 05-19-2013 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1412314)
There was an example recently that flat out proves that getting a CASS ticket printed out is not enough to stop the threat. Not going to post it here, but look around internally if you need proof.

Its bush league for a JS rider not to at least have those two simple things at least readily presentable. Takes 10 seconds, max. The stakes are far too high and the rewards of acting cool and casual about it just way too low IMHO.

It takes 10 seconds and we're required to do it anyway. Where exactly is the incentive to blow it off?

French man found in cockpit of Philly plane guilty

Actually somewhat recent.

As a jumpseater, you should expect to show your stuff to the captain unless otherwise advised. It is what it is.

Qotsaautopilot 05-19-2013 08:43 PM

I have my certificate an medical out every time even if I get a seat in the back. Not having it ready is what's really toolish

captjns 05-20-2013 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 1412561)
I have my certificate an medical out every time even if I get a seat in the back. Not having it ready is what's really toolish

It's the way it's been done as long as I've been doing it for 35 years. That said why should it be different.

Don't they cover this topic during Basic Indoc any more? Isn't their a jump seat information sheet distributed to new hires?

Timbo 05-20-2013 03:44 AM

Traveling in civies, or off line, I expect to be asked for my lic. and med. Traveling in uniform, on my own airline, not so much. Same goes for how I treat JS riders. Company pilot in uniform, his company ID is plenty, but in civies or an off line pilot, show me your stuff, and then for more proof, the questions begin;

When were you hired? What's your seniority number? What are you flying? Why did you bid that??? What were you thinking?? Do you know Joe Blow? We were in the Navy together back when he had hair, and you know how he got his name...?

Timbo 05-20-2013 10:41 AM

Hey, news flash:

When Chuck Norris jumpseats, the pilots have to show HIM their licenses and medicals!

And later, Chuck gets the landing.

gloopy 05-20-2013 10:44 AM

Chuck Norris doesn't need the landing. Not only does he not need the practice, his beard is his landing currency.

Boomer 06-07-2013 07:22 PM

TOTD to the Regional kid (didn't see which airline) with stickers on his flight case for the Thunderbirds Demo Team, Paramedic Badge, and Formula 1 Racing.

I wanted to approach him and say "Timmay? Will you sign my copy of ALPA Magazine?"

trip 06-08-2013 07:24 AM

The guy in the Bose headset add that keeps popping up on this site, he bugs me.

Elliot 06-08-2013 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 1424780)
The guy in the Bose headset add that keeps popping up on this site, he bugs me.

I have a female in my "Bose A20" headset ad. Maybe your cookies are trying to tell you something? :D

GJ

Boomer 06-08-2013 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1424794)
I have a female in my "Bose A20" headset ad. Maybe your cookies are trying to tell you something? :D

GJ

Chick on mine too.

Trip needs to change the websites he's visiting. :)

ShyGuy 06-08-2013 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1424624)
TOTD to the Regional kid (didn't see which airline) with stickers on his flight case for the Thunderbirds Demo Team, Paramedic Badge, and Formula 1 Racing.

I wanted to approach him and say "Timmay? Will you sign my copy of ALPA Magazine?"

It's ALPA's fault for publishing garbage without even verifying it, especially a resume that big for a pilot that young.

DeadHead 06-08-2013 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1424624)
TOTD to the Regional kid (didn't see which airline) with stickers on his flight case for the Thunderbirds Demo Team, Paramedic Badge, and Formula 1 Racing.

I wanted to approach him and say "Timmay? Will you sign my copy of ALPA Magazine?"

Personally I never really got the political ads made car bumper stickers that people decide to place on their flight cases.
That's just me though.

My one simple rule for flight case stickers is that they retain a certain minimum level of comedic value.

Observe...
http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-co...er-sticker.jpg
Exhibit A

block30 06-08-2013 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1424794)
I have a female in my "Bose A20" headset ad. Maybe your cookies are trying to tell you something? :D

GJ

Mine is much, much worse. I'm getting the "Pay $1,500 to interview prep at a regional that really needs pilots" ad.

I found that one even more awesome when that ad was in ALPA's magazine, just with the word "Republic" edited out. :eek:

Sink r8 06-08-2013 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1424892)
Personally I never really got the political ads made car bumper stickers that people decide to place on their flight cases.
That's just me though.

My one simple rule for flight case stickers is that they retain a certain minimum level of comedic value.

Observe...
http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-co...er-sticker.jpg
Exhibit A

We had Forrest Gump in FC, once. He didn't sign autographs, but he did hand the crew some of the original "Shiite Happens" stickers.

badflaps 06-08-2013 01:08 PM

Wow, you guys have good pop-ups.. All I have is get into to Canada with your DUI's..... I suppose drinking a Molson in customs is out.

captjns 06-08-2013 06:15 PM

Flight bag stickers? Add unecessary weight to the APS weight of my bag. That said no friggen stickers on my bag!:mad:

Althogh who else would we be able to make fun of at the airport while waiting for a flight:)?

80ktsClamp 06-08-2013 06:29 PM

Flight bag? Who still carries those? :)

ross9238 06-09-2013 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1425036)
Flight bag? Who still carries those? :)

Us regional pukes.

Crazy Canuck 06-09-2013 09:14 AM

Totd: the pax going up to the gate agent at 4 am complaining we haven't boarded yet. Come on! Departure is still 30 minutes away and it takes about 5 minutes to load just 40 people onto a plane. You'll still be early ;)

LNL76 06-09-2013 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 1425300)
Totd: the pax going up to the gate agent at 4 am complaining we haven't boarded yet. Come on! Departure is still 30 minutes away and it takes about 5 minutes to load just 40 people onto a plane. You'll still be early ;)

Hmmmm, was it a Crazy Canuck like yourself? :p J/K...

Some people just like to hear themselves talk and/or are Type A personalities. :rolleyes:

captjns 06-09-2013 03:18 PM

Tiger Airways expat... "This is Tiger Airways 123 request IFR clearance to Singapore". I never realized VFR clearances were an option.

80ktsClamp 06-09-2013 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1425486)
Tiger Airways expat... "This is Tiger Airways 123 request IFR clearance to Singapore". I never realized VFR clearances were an option.

They are.

Who's the tool now? :cool:

galaxy flyer 06-09-2013 04:46 PM

True, but how many airline crews are asking for a VFR clearance, esp at an overseas location?

GF


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