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GogglesPisano 10-25-2018 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 2697407)
Performing my walk around the aircraft in ATL, no safety vest on because the aircraft doesn't have one and we don't have any extra available according to mx. Non-reving Delta FO boards while I'm outside, walks up front to tell the CA that I'm not wearing my safety vest.

This guy was the crown jewel of tools.

Welcome to the ATL. :D

cornbeef007 10-25-2018 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 2697407)
Performing my walk around the aircraft in ATL, no safety vest on because the aircraft doesn't have one and we don't have any extra available according to mx. Non-reving Delta FO boards while I'm outside, walks up front to tell the CA that I'm not wearing my safety vest.

This guy was the crown jewel of tools.

Atlanta seems to be a cultivating ground for wanna be management types.

Sounds like he needs the same talk I have with my three year old about tattletales.

Battlinbear21 10-25-2018 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 2697438)
Atlanta seems to be a cultivating ground for wanna be management types.

Sounds like he needs the same talk I have with my three year old about tattletales.

atl atc... “hey sprit since when are you not allowed to accept LAHSO? we didn’t get this information here nor did anyone of my colleagues nationally. Just curious why all of a sudden for the change right now?” Fo “ the skipper said he has worked here 14 years and never been able to do them.” Heard a few other strange things lately from 380 to taxiway Dixie.

Adlerdriver 10-25-2018 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2697350)
I can easily keep my hand just behind the flap lever, so I don't or have to get my reading glasses out or set the parking brake by mistake.

:confused: If you really can't differentiate between turning the parking brake t-handle 90-degreees or the flap handle "lift to move fore and aft" motion, I think there are bigger issues involved than poor CRM. Maybe if you actually need glasses to differentiate between various actuators, you should be wearing them.

Chakerik 10-25-2018 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 2697407)
Performing my walk around the aircraft in ATL, no safety vest on because the aircraft doesn't have one and we don't have any extra available according to mx. Non-reving Delta FO boards while I'm outside, walks up front to tell the CA that I'm not wearing my safety vest.

This guy was the crown jewel of tools.

Were you up there when he told the ca? If so the totd level increases about tenfold...

echelon 10-25-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Chakerik (Post 2697540)
Were you up there when he told the ca? If so the totd level increases about tenfold...


I dunno, the fact that he did it behind his back makes it worse for me

450knotOffice 10-25-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2696900)
It's more of a distraction than anything else. By you doing that it's a going to make me (the PF) wonder "Should I be asking for flaps?" The great thing is the location of the flap lever doesn't move, so you won't have to go "looking for the handle" It's always in the same location on every flight. ;)

Right. There is ZERO excuse for a very annoying habit like that.

Not only that, has anyone ever taught these folks that one should never touch the flap or gear handles unless they are being operated?! I mean, that’s private pilot basics.

Get your hand off the gear and the flap handle.

vessbot 10-25-2018 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2697350)
I don't just say "you fly" in the briefing, I try to make it clear during the flight that as long as we are not breaking the plane/rules, you can do what you want.

I say this in the complete spirit of honest communication and not the continuation of a routine online bicker: no matter what the internal justification in your head of why your hand is by the flap lever, it's probably coming across as the typical hand hover.

Also your justification is shaky at best, and I couldn't tell where seriousness ended and joking began. When he calls for the control, you simply look at it, put your hand on it, and move it. That's all there is to it. Same as any other time you push a button.

Ducttape 10-25-2018 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by vessbot (Post 2697715)
I say this in the complete spirit of honest communication and not the continuation of a routine online bicker: no matter what the internal justification in your head of why your hand is by the flap lever, it's probably coming across as the typical hand hover.

Also your justification is shaky at best, and I couldn't tell where seriousness ended and joking began. When he calls for the control, you simply look at it, put your hand on it, and move it. That's all there is to it. Same as any other time you push a button.

Best point was made by whoever mentioned the simple fact that IF you need to place your hand on a lever to be able to recognize it without glasses, you need to be wearing your glasses.

NERD 10-25-2018 07:07 PM

Or just maybe he was trying to keep you out of trouble. City of Atlanta has past an ordinance that anyone on the ramp will have a safety vest on and those not in compliance will get a summons(whatever that means) if airport police see you without. Oddly enough, the HVC's that get run between gates in the Porches don't require them, nor do crews being run in the crew vans when running late. PS we don't like it either.




Originally Posted by jpso (Post 2697407)
Performing my walk around the aircraft in ATL, no safety vest on because the aircraft doesn't have one and we don't have any extra available according to mx. Non-reving Delta FO boards while I'm outside, walks up front to tell the CA that I'm not wearing my safety vest.

This guy was the crown jewel of tools.



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