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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1807677)
How did that update go anyways?
Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Seattle sucks. Green Bay sucks Green Bay really sucks Game Tied Green Bay sucks. :D Dont forget somewhere in the middle of that: Sherman is being a panzy or needs to get out of the game if his arm hurts that bad |
Originally Posted by Spoonman
(Post 1807520)
Just returned from the following 4 day trip: Me- FO, line holder. Capt- reserve. Day 1 Captain says he'll be maxed out for the month after this trip and get the rest of the month off. Good for him I tell him. Day 2, reroute. Reroute has us flying 1 leg on day 3 then end of rotation!! Woo hoo, what a great deal, work 3 and get paid for 4! This never happens to me, and I'm pretty excited to head home tomorrow. Captain calls up crew tracking and tells them he needs to be put back onto a 4 day rotation right in front of me. Check schedule 10 minutes later: 4 more legs of flying, add back day 4 to rotation. Thanks.
Probably would have gotten tagged to fly something anyway, but really? Thanks for taking care of troops first.
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1807652)
*shrug* It's not the military, there's no troops to take care of. I think he had more to gain than you had to lose. You were both gone for the same amount of days, the pay was probably about the same, but this way he doesn't have to go back but you didn't get easy days. Sure it stinks for you, but only a little. He better have bought beers at least.
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Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 1807729)
What a TOOL! I bet the flight deck got very quiet for the rest of the trip and there's a new CA on your "no fly list."
You've received a lot of good info here on APC. Here's another tip....Your're right...It's not the military and you need to learn how to be a civilian. Spoonman got screwed and that Captain is a real *** ( I'll save the sensor and just type the *s) There were other ways for the CA to fill up without pimping over his FO. I can't believe you are taking up for him. |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1807734)
You are correct, I've gotten a lot of good info here. Over time I'll see what is the norm but from an outsider perspective I stand by my original statement. As I've learned seniority rules. I bid a YS to pick up a good trip while sitting reserve, I'm the most senior FO on reserve so the trip was probably going to be mine. A line holder saw the trip and dumped a bunch of crappy 1 days in the pot and took the good trip. Now I'll be eating the 0-dark hundred reports and not even getting the reach around of a night out of the crash pad. I didn't look at it as I'd been wronged, it's just the way it is. I don't see how the 2 situations are different. Maybe after a couple years in the industry I will.
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1807652)
*shrug* It's not the military, there's no troops to take care of. I think he had more to gain than you had to lose. You were both gone for the same amount of days, the pay was probably about the same, but this way he doesn't have to go back but you didn't get easy days. Sure it stinks for you, but only a little. He better have bought beers at least.
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General etiquette is to drop/pick up whatever suits you, and not worry too much about the reserves. Reserve is reserve. I hate it when reserves whine that they had to drive in because somebody dropped the last turn (probably to catch a flight home in time to see their kids before bedtime). On average, most of us did our time in the hole before we got a line. It's asking too much to worry about a hypothetical reserve (who might want to go fly anyway) before you adjust your schedule.
But once on a trip, I would never screw over my crew by "volunteering" them to do something they didn't want to. But you can always have the discussion and reach a group consensus (I have). |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1807652)
*shrug* It's not the military, there's no troops to take care of. I think he had more to gain than you had to lose. You were both gone for the same amount of days, the pay was probably about the same, but this way he doesn't have to go back but you didn't get easy days. Sure it stinks for you, but only a little. He better have bought beers at least.
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1807734)
You are correct, I've gotten a lot of good info here. Over time I'll see what is the norm but from an outsider perspective I stand by my original statement. As I've learned seniority rules. I bid a YS to pick up a good trip while sitting reserve, I'm the most senior FO on reserve so the trip was probably going to be mine. A line holder saw the trip and dumped a bunch of crappy 1 days in the pot and took the good trip. Now I'll be eating the 0-dark hundred reports and not even getting the reach around of a night out of the crash pad. I didn't look at it as I'd been wronged, it's just the way it is. I don't see how the 2 situations are different. Maybe after a couple years in the industry I will.
And I certainly hope that it doesn't take a couple of years for you. As the Gunny said to me in another life, "Sir, you are new here. I know you got lots of ideas on how to do things, and all that %^$# they taught you in OCS, but just keep your mouth shut, and your eyes and ears open. Before you know it, you'll know it." From your postings, you seem to be a squared away guy. When I finally decide between M88 and 717 captain, I look forward to flying with you. (You're on the 717, right?) |
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 1808443)
Buying beers doesn"t fix the fact that the captain pulled a johnson move. I sure as hell would have told him too.
As others have said, reserve is reserve. That's just the way it is. Once on a trip, there is an implied obligation to make it an easy trip for each other. Don't be "that" guy. And I certainly hope that it doesn't take a couple of years for you. As the Gunny said to me in another life, "Sir, you are new here. I know you got lots of ideas on how to do things, and all that %^$# they taught you in OCS, but just keep your mouth shut, and your eyes and ears open. Before you know it, you'll know it." jj From your postings, you seem to be a squared away guy. When I finally decide between M88 and 717 captain, I look forward to flying with you. (You're on the 717, right?) As for being squared away, thanks :). I've done very little to hide my identity here, any DAL pilot if so inclined could look at my posts and probably figure out exactly who I am RL. I try to be respectful and talk to people here as if I was speaking to them in person. And yes, I'm on the 717. |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1807652)
*shrug* It's not the military, there's no troops to take care of. I think he had more to gain than you had to lose. You were both gone for the same amount of days, the pay was probably about the same, but this way he doesn't have to go back but you didn't get easy days. Sure it stinks for you, but only a little. He better have bought beers at least.
That captain believes in CRM... "We are the Crew... You are the Resource, and I'm the Management. Good aviating skills a Captain does not make. |
Originally Posted by captjns
(Post 1808683)
Not enough beers in Belgium for what the skipper did...
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