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ShyGuy 01-15-2015 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1804442)
PA sent to me a FEDEX pilot was lucky enough to witness going from PNS-ATL this morning. "Your going to the busiest airport in the world this morning. Good luck you are flying with me. Air Force C141 for 15 yrs and Delta for 25. My FO flew Air Force KC135s and has 10 years at Delta" and apparently went on and on.

Yes, the world's busiest airport good ol' Atlanta. He's right, it is very busy and challenging. You have to put up with RNAV STARs that are pre-programmed with all altitude and speed constraints. Have to set a lower altitude and then engage managed descent/VNAV. Once you reach the bottom of the STAR they take you on vectors which involves pulling or pushing a heading button and spinning it in the direction ATC tells you. If you haven't broken a sweat by now, the next one will get you: progressive speed reductions given by ATC. The obvious max 250 below 10,000. Then slow to 210. Then 180 at some point. And once cleared, final approach speed. The plane has autothrottles and never mind all you area doing is spinning a speed knob, it is still tough work! And on vectors, they will join you on a 30-degree intercept for an ILS approach to one of three runways. Hitting the approach button takes its toll as your fingers tire by this point. The aircraft follows the ILS down and at some point you click off the autopilot and hand-fly the remaining 30 seconds of the flight. After you land you have a huge challenge to follow the one of several known (and expected) published taxi routes to your ramp spot. And when you get there, it still isn't over. You have to call ramp and get cleared in.

Thankfully two military pilots were on board that flight and made it known to the passengers. I don't think 2 civvies could have done this. :D

DeadHead 01-15-2015 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1804623)
Yes, the world's busiest airport good ol' Atlanta. He's right, it is very busy and challenging. You have to put up with RNAV STARs that are pre-programmed with all altitude and speed constraints. Have to set a lower altitude and then engage managed descent/VNAV. Once you reach the bottom of the STAR they take you on vectors which involves pulling or pushing a heading button and spinning it in the direction ATC tells you. If you haven't broken a sweat by now, the next one will get you: progressive speed reductions given by ATC. The obvious max 250 below 10,000. Then slow to 210. Then 180 at some point. And once cleared, final approach speed. The plane has autothrottles and never mind all you area doing is spinning a speed knob, it is still tough work! And on vectors, they will join you on a 30-degree intercept for an ILS approach to one of three runways. Hitting the approach button takes its toll as your fingers tire by this point. The aircraft follows the ILS down and at some point you click off the autopilot and hand-fly the remaining 30 seconds of the flight. After you land you have a huge challenge to follow the one of several known (and expected) published taxi routes to your ramp spot. And when you get there, it still isn't over. You have to call ramp and get cleared in.

Thankfully two military pilots were on board that flight and made it known to the passengers. I don't think 2 civvies could have done this. :D

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captjns 01-15-2015 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1804449)
Why some guys think that is an appropriate time to expound on their vast military experience is beyond me, though.

Little Pecker Syndrome:confused:

captjns 01-15-2015 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1804623)
Yes, the world's busiest airport good ol' Atlanta. He's right, it is very busy and challenging. You have to put up with RNAV STARs that are pre-programmed with all altitude and speed constraints. Have to set a lower altitude and then engage managed descent/VNAV. Once you reach the bottom of the STAR they take you on vectors which involves pulling or pushing a heading button and spinning it in the direction ATC tells you. If you haven't broken a sweat by now, the next one will get you: progressive speed reductions given by ATC. The obvious max 250 below 10,000. Then slow to 210. Then 180 at some point. And once cleared, final approach speed. The plane has autothrottles and never mind all you area doing is spinning a speed knob, it is still tough work! And on vectors, they will join you on a 30-degree intercept for an ILS approach to one of three runways. Hitting the approach button takes its toll as your fingers tire by this point. The aircraft follows the ILS down and at some point you click off the autopilot and hand-fly the remaining 30 seconds of the flight. After you land you have a huge challenge to follow the one of several known (and expected) published taxi routes to your ramp spot. And when you get there, it still isn't over. You have to call ramp and get cleared in.

Thankfully two military pilots were on board that flight and made it known to the passengers. I don't think 2 civvies could have done this. :D

Don't forget about the crappy crew meals that one must endure too:eek:!

MikeF16 01-17-2015 07:14 PM

My crash pad landlord. He told me before I started here that he did not allow females in the crash pad -- fine, no problem. I can see how that would get weird with 1 guy trying to go to sleep and another having a time. That said, yesterday I went running with a male friend of mine from indoc. My pad is on the way to the trails and he arrived a couple minutes early and I hadn't put my shoes on yet.

The @sshat landlord just happens to walk out of his door; or maybe he was just looking out the window and saw. Regardless, as soon as my friend came in the door the landlord comes over and kicks him out of the house. Mind you, it is about 25 degrees and my friend is wearing running shorts and a sweatshirt (ok, he should've put more on but c'mon). He says it sets a bad precedent allowing any guest in the house and made my friend wait outside in the cold while I put my shoes on. What a tool.

BTW, anybody have a decent pad in NYC? Please PM if so!

Timbo 01-17-2015 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1806386)
My crash pad landlord. He told me before I started here that he did not allow females in the crash pad -- fine, no problem. I can see how that would get weird with 1 guy trying to go to sleep and another having a time. That said, yesterday I went running with a male friend of mine from indoc. My pad is on the way to the trails and he arrived a couple minutes early and I hadn't put my shoes on yet.

The @sshat landlord just happens to walk out of his door; or maybe he was just looking out the window and saw. Regardless, as soon as my friend came in the door the landlord comes over and kicks him out of the house. Mind you, it is about 25 degrees and my friend is wearing running shorts and a sweatshirt (ok, he should've put more on but c'mon). He says it sets a bad precedent allowing any guest in the house and made my friend wait outside in the cold while I put my shoes on. What a tool.

BTW, anybody have a decent pad in NYC? Please PM if so!

"No Guests in the house" ?? Was that in the rental agreement? :rolleyes:

badflaps 01-18-2015 05:02 AM

I guess now you know why there was a vacancy. Those days will be over soon, with your new house in Crackerville.

MikeF16 01-18-2015 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1806421)
"No Guests in the house" ?? Was that in the rental agreement? :rolleyes:

No rental agreement. Found the place on crashpads.com, the landlord was more responsive than any of the others. I sent money, he sent key and address, and then there was a 10 minute phone call where he explained house rules. Never said "no guests", just no hanky-panky. There seem to be many on the fly rules he makes or dreams up.

saxman66 01-18-2015 05:29 AM

I talked to a similar landlord once when I was looking. He was proud of fact that he kicked a pilot out because brought a guest over to play cards or something. He was really proud that he said he called his chief pilot too to tattle on him! Ok thanks! Click


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Salukipilot4590 01-18-2015 10:56 AM

Ugh I hate crashpads, had one like that here in IAD in 2011. Never again! I would rather sleep in my car.


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