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Justdoinmyjob 05-24-2015 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 1887541)
then please let them know you are too embarrassed to even mention to your pax that you served ...


Sure, OK. You can think whatever you want. As for being embarrassed, I had a real job. MOS was 0302. Took care of my guys and made sure everyone came home. Moved on to other things. No need to relive those "glory days" like some "Iceman." Was Criket your callsign?

Iceman: The Later Years - Video Dailymotion

You can have the last word. I got more important things to do this weekend.

iceman49 05-24-2015 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1887570)
It's true. When I mention my thousands of hours of hand flown ILS's in snow storms and ice storms I get nothing.... but when I mention my two space shuttle landings in severe clear, no wind with an auto pilot doing all the work, they eat it up!:rolleyes:

If you really want to hear them cheer, on the F/O's leg, you tell them this is his first landing in the airplane, and his wife just had triplets, and he hasn't had a good night's sleep in weeks... so be kind.

And after every "Firm" landing, on taxi in, I'll pick up the mic and say, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm sorry about that landing. It's not my fault, and it's not YOUR fault, it's the ASS Phalt!"

Or the pilot that wanted to brief the pax that we were doing a fully automated CAT 3 in 0 visibility with no imput from the pilots!:eek:

Skyone 05-24-2015 01:33 PM

Try making your military CV PA during and after the Vietnam war. See where that would have gotten you. Thirty five years of making pa's and only once mentioned any military service. Well actually it was the f/o apologizing for a landing I made in the 727 that dropped about 100 masks.:eek: He blamed it on two weeks active duty doing carrier quals again.. Bless his heart.

Keep the CV in your pocket for your next job.

badflaps 05-24-2015 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Skyone (Post 1887968)
Try making your military CV PA during and after the Vietnam war. See where that would have gotten you. Thirty five years of making pa's and only once mentioned any military service. Well actually it was the f/o apologizing for a landing I made in the 727 that dropped about 100 masks.:eek: He blamed it on two weeks active duty doing carrier quals again.. Bless his heart.

Keep the CV in your pocket for your next job.

I was standing in the door saying Buh-bye to the folks and a guy walks by and says: "Nice third wire, Skip"....

labbats 05-24-2015 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1887983)
I was standing in the door saying Buh-bye to the folks and a guy walks by and says: "Nice third wire, Skip"....

Reminds me of another tool of the day.

The passenger that has waited the whole flight to pop in and say something negative. Usually in reference to a recent aviation tragedy or embarassment. Luckily it's offset with several nice replies. Just a big tool thing to do.

In a positive light it makes me glad I don't work in a cubicle next to people like that.

captjns 05-24-2015 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1887983)
I was standing in the door saying Buh-bye to the folks and a guy walks by and says: "Nice third wire, Skip"....

Did you counter, "No... I snagged the second wire."?

rickair7777 05-24-2015 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 1887541)
Yes, PLEASE show my post to the SpecOps guys you know--and pass along the thanks for their service that my pax wanted them to have!

After they embarressedly say "You're welcome" or "It is my privilege to serve" (my two normal responses), then please let them know you are too embarrassed to even mention to your pax that you served ...

I never said I needed public thanks ... You must have failed English comprehension at VMI.

You're wrong on this one...there's no need to discuss military history, flying history, or really much of anything else about the pilots' backgrounds.

Some folks might think it's neat, but some will be annoyed or worse. You need to tailor your customer service to the lowest common denominator. Some of the paying passengers are probably opposed to all things military and don't feel they need to be given an opportunity to thank anyone. You're in the service industry now, not the place to be forward leaning with your personal views.

If you want to entertain military and aviation buffs, invite them to the bar afterwards.

And on behalf of the specops community... save the public accolades for the 20 y/o conventional forces groundpounder who has the real crap job and limited resources and support, or the wounded warrior. Hollywood will more than take care of the top guns and sof operators.

Fegelein 05-24-2015 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1887465)
You don't hear a civilian saying his FO has flown 8 leg days in dog*&&# weather with no AP, no bathroom, at a regional partner airline going into JFK, ATL, and ORD, which is a lot more relevant to Part 121 major airline flying than someone who flew single-pilot F16 sorties in the military.

The difference is the public still respects military pilots. Not airline pilots.

Especially commuter/regional pilots who think they are real (mainline) airline pilots.

80ktsClamp 05-24-2015 04:18 PM

It cracks me up when I'm standing up at the entrance to the cockpit after a flight and a pax comes happily ambling down the isle "SO YOU MUST HAVE BEEN (insert navy or air force typically)!"

"No sir, I'm an all civilian background, thanks for flying with us today."

"oh..." (dejected look from passenger)

Skyone 05-24-2015 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1888046)
It cracks me up when I'm standing up at the entrance to the cockpit after a flight and a pax comes happily ambling down the isle "SO YOU MUST HAVE BEEN (insert navy or air force typically)!"

"No sir, I'm an all civilian background, thanks for flying with us today."

"oh..." (dejected look from passenger)

Just tell 'em you were Coast Guard...that will really confuse 'em.


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