Tool of the day
#3711
Really? Thin skin, man.
Personally, I think it's juvenile to make the comment on the air, but it IS annoying to every other pilot out there when they have to look at almighty UAL's strobes flashing away while parked on the runway at night.
C'mon guys! Let's come up with better one's than the last few I've seen.
Personally, I think it's juvenile to make the comment on the air, but it IS annoying to every other pilot out there when they have to look at almighty UAL's strobes flashing away while parked on the runway at night.
C'mon guys! Let's come up with better one's than the last few I've seen.
#3712
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I was on a flight from DEN-MIA on AA. I was travelling as revenue passenger wearing civilian clothe. When the door closed I got up and went to the very last row because it was completely empty. When I got to the seats I noticed all of the FA bags. I asked her kindly if she could move the bags and she replied with “the last row is reserved for flight attendance to supervise the passengers during the flight”
I dint realize bankruptcy court approved AA to block 6 revenue seats for FAs to “supervise” the passengers. During the flight I looked back to see how hard they were “supervising,” they did look busy supervising with there ipads and eyelids closed!
Not sure if she was a tool for lying…maybe just lazy!!!! If it really is AA procedure to have FAs sit in the last row for a 4 hour flight, than I apologize. But I highly doubt it is!
I dint realize bankruptcy court approved AA to block 6 revenue seats for FAs to “supervise” the passengers. During the flight I looked back to see how hard they were “supervising,” they did look busy supervising with there ipads and eyelids closed!
Not sure if she was a tool for lying…maybe just lazy!!!! If it really is AA procedure to have FAs sit in the last row for a 4 hour flight, than I apologize. But I highly doubt it is!
Correct answer:
If OAL: Oh, I didn't realize that. My appologies. I'll just scoot back to the middle seat between two fat guys.
If your airline: Ha! That's funny. I believe you believe that. Aaaaaaaaaanywhoo...can I have just one of those seats?
If Yes:
If No: send it up the chain requesting a company memo clarifying this "policy".
#3713
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Or suck it up and don't worry about it. Very few flights have even ONE seat open anywhere in the plane, so when the flight is less than full and the gate agents kindly block off that last row, let the FA's enjoy this little unofficial perk.
Jeez guys. How many Grinches do we have on this board? No wonder so many FA's hate us.
Jeez guys. How many Grinches do we have on this board? No wonder so many FA's hate us.
#3714
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Or suck it up and don't worry about it. Very few flights have even ONE seat open anywhere in the plane, so when the flight is less than full and the gate agents kindly block off that last row, let the FA's enjoy this little unofficial perk.
Jeez guys. How many Grinches do we have on this board? No wonder so many FA's hate us.
Jeez guys. How many Grinches do we have on this board? No wonder so many FA's hate us.
Its a two way street, so I can see the PAX side of this. It is annoying when no one actually sits in the seats. This is coming from someone who had a mother who was a 20+ year EAL FA.
Either way TOTD, I am not sure it meets that.
#3715
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That being said, I hate it when guys start trying to micromanage other aircraft on the frequency. Heard once where an RJ commented on how the RJ ahead of him needs to turn his beacon on in a very condescending tone. The other guys basically asked him how to use a beacon when it's deferred. Classic response.
Unless its a safety issue, don't be a tool.
#3716
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I know right, why is it always a shock to these guys when the strobes come on from an aircraft taking the runway? They come on anyway when they start the takeoff roll. Is it really that difficult to not stare directly at them? It's like their freaking deer wandering onto to a highway.
#3717
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Damn. I'm guessing you're a NOOB in this business.
I have ZERO problem with that. None. This is normal for them and is basically accepted practice at every airline I've ever flown on, if the flight's not too full. Those FA's are given the most God-awful jumpseats to sit in, usually as hard as a wooden plank, and absolutely vertical back rests. My back and ass hurt just thinking about those seats. So, when the FA's are basically finished with their work and have time to relax a bit, I have ZERO issue with them taking a more comfy seat.
Why anybody would complain is beyond me. You and every other passenger were assigned your own seat. Stay in it and don't worry about a seat that wasn't given to you.
I have ZERO problem with that. None. This is normal for them and is basically accepted practice at every airline I've ever flown on, if the flight's not too full. Those FA's are given the most God-awful jumpseats to sit in, usually as hard as a wooden plank, and absolutely vertical back rests. My back and ass hurt just thinking about those seats. So, when the FA's are basically finished with their work and have time to relax a bit, I have ZERO issue with them taking a more comfy seat.
Why anybody would complain is beyond me. You and every other passenger were assigned your own seat. Stay in it and don't worry about a seat that wasn't given to you.
#3718
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No, it is an issue. Especially on a night flight where you have the F/As chatting and comparing cat food recipes loudly and with the reading lights on while the revenue passengers are trying to sleep. Go sit in the back galley if that's what you need to do instead of bothering the passengers.
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#3719
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I've RARELY heard FA's being loud back there during late night flights. I'm not kidding. They're usually very quiet and mindful of the sleeping passengers. At least on AA they are.
As for the strobes on when just sitting there waiting to be cleared to go, are we not not being just a BIT overly dramatic and sanctimonious about jeapordizing public safety? As I said, I NEVER call anybody out on anything on the radio because it's just juvenile and classless, but it IS irritating to see a jet blasting it's strobes while just sitting there. Yes, we ARE smart enough to look away. By the way, almost NOBODY does the strobes on while parked on the runway thing. I'm ORD based - home to UA and AA. Neither airline has many pilots who turn on the strobes while just sitting there - policy or not. Thank you.
Personally, I go out of my way to not shine a bright light into another crew's eyes. Most seem to act the same way. Some obviously don't give a crap, under the guise of "safety". Right.
As for the strobes on when just sitting there waiting to be cleared to go, are we not not being just a BIT overly dramatic and sanctimonious about jeapordizing public safety? As I said, I NEVER call anybody out on anything on the radio because it's just juvenile and classless, but it IS irritating to see a jet blasting it's strobes while just sitting there. Yes, we ARE smart enough to look away. By the way, almost NOBODY does the strobes on while parked on the runway thing. I'm ORD based - home to UA and AA. Neither airline has many pilots who turn on the strobes while just sitting there - policy or not. Thank you.
Personally, I go out of my way to not shine a bright light into another crew's eyes. Most seem to act the same way. Some obviously don't give a crap, under the guise of "safety". Right.
Last edited by 450knotOffice; 01-11-2013 at 04:38 PM.
#3720
I don't care if FAs sit in the last row of a plane. I do care if they talk loudly in to each other while passengers are trying to sleep. I have been on two early flights in the second to last row with noise canceling headphones and only a few hours of sleep and both times they kept me up. The last one was a few weeks ago and I heard every detail of the FAs four day. I was jumpseating home so didn't care too much, but if I was a paying passenger then I would not be happy.
As far as strobes go... Do you complain when a plane lands with strobes while you are holding short? I remember when I was new to 121 and a captain showed me how annoying it was when someone put strobes on when they entered the runway. I agreed with him but a few weeks later I realized that before he taught me that, I never even noticed. I learned when I was a student pilot not to look at strobes and some how people forget after a few years in 121.
You put strobes lights on when you are on the runway so that landing traffic can see you are on the runway. I have had enough close calls caused by ATC trying to get another departure out in front of us in the daytime to appreciate the AIM aircraft lighting policy.
As far as strobes go... Do you complain when a plane lands with strobes while you are holding short? I remember when I was new to 121 and a captain showed me how annoying it was when someone put strobes on when they entered the runway. I agreed with him but a few weeks later I realized that before he taught me that, I never even noticed. I learned when I was a student pilot not to look at strobes and some how people forget after a few years in 121.
You put strobes lights on when you are on the runway so that landing traffic can see you are on the runway. I have had enough close calls caused by ATC trying to get another departure out in front of us in the daytime to appreciate the AIM aircraft lighting policy.
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