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[QUOTE=Hrkdrivr;1970619
Or, if the plane is full, I can/will ride the FA jumpseat so you can have the cockpit jumpseat. [/QUOTE] In all of my years commuting to ATL, this occurred numerous times to me and it was the only way I got a ride on many a flight. Always thankful and appreciative of the DAL pilots. Roll Tide! |
Originally Posted by Hoser
(Post 1970644)
In all of my years commuting to ATL, this occurred numerous times to me and it was the only way I got a ride on many a flight. Always thankful and appreciative of the DAL pilots. Roll Tide!
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
(Post 1970619)
Not sure what airline you're talking about...but are you saying if I'm commuting on my own company's metal, I should NOT reserve the jumpseat and just try my luck at non-reving?
And you are obviously NOT understanding what I'm saying. Because they screw their OWN guys in the process.
Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
(Post 1970619)
any case, no matter how it shakes out, if the ride is on my company's metal and you're with a different company and there is only one seat, you're not gonna get it. Same for me on your company's metal.
Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
(Post 1970619)
there are seats available, I'll flow back there anyway. You can too. Or, if the plane is full, I can/will ride the FA jumpseat so you can have the cockpit jumpseat.
Let me break it down for you this way........ Scenario 1) Standing in the boarding area. A pilot (non-tool) comes up and says "hey man, I'm listed on the jumpseat, but I ALSO listed for a seat in the back. Hopefully I clear on my SA pass and we BOTH get home today". Again, this is the NON-TOOL variety/experienced commuter. Scenario 2) The tool variety; Standing in the boarding area, pilot walks up. "Are you trying to JS? I already listed for it. I didn't bother listing for a seat in the back". Dude walks off..... He WON'T "flow" to the back, he never listed. NON-TOOL pilot walks up "hey man, I'm on the JS also. I'm also listed for a seat in the back. That other guy (TOOL) can probably hold a seat in the back, I'm too junior too. If he listed for a seat in the back, I'd get on the JS. But he's not the type to list for both and considerate of other commuters". Does that make sense and clear it up? |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 1970687)
Does that make sense and clear it up? |
Originally Posted by Sputnik
(Post 1970692)
No and no. But I'm new to this world so maybe that's the problem
You ever done a hub to hub commute, where the non-rev list is routinely 30-40 people deep? Especially on afternoon flights. Doesn't matter, winter, summer, all the time. Let me explain it this way, I've been commuting 16 years now, between three different employers. I've commuted on all legacy carriers, and most LCC's. And to the 8 different domiciles I've commuted to, MOST guys are at least cognizant of other commuters. On my own "metal", I ALWAYS list for a seat in the back on a pass, as well as the JS. That way, if a seat in the back opens up, I'm going to the back on a pass and the JS pass gets canned. And the more junior guy, OR an offline guy gets the jumpseat, and we BOTH get home/to work. The tool I'm talking about simply doesn't bother listing for a seat in the back on an SA/non-rev pass. Even though he COULD have held one in the back had he done so when all the seats start getting cleared due no shows, misconnects, and the magical overbooking that simply never materializes. And and junior guy that couldn't hold a seat in the back with a lower pass travel date would have got the JS, or the offline guy. |
The tool of them all is always the gate agent who won't list you on your own metal because the new rule is "30 minutes check in time." Umm no. I literally had to call our dispatcher to ACARS the captain to come and get me on my own JS. She really didn't want to spend 60 seconds CASSING me.
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A couple guys I knew who flew a Traffic Watch C-172 while wearing the full monkey suit, four stripes and all.
Now before you say 'Well, they're just complying with company policy," well, I worked for the same operation. The uniform 'policy' was essentially "Don't fly naked," and that was about it. So 99% of us would show up in shorts and a T-shirt...(maybe a polo shirt and slacks if we were feeling classy)...while these two dudes showed up wearing full regalia. Aviator sunglasses, white collared shirt with four stripes on each shoulder, wings, and a lanyard – which, I might add, had nothing attached to it except for their pilot certificates, since we didn't have company ID and didn't need SIDA badges. Come to think of it, the wings may have been those plastic junior pilot wings. Now, I understand their desire to look professional, but there's professional, and then there's just plain dorky. I don't care who you are, nobody looks good getting out of a beat-up Traffic Watch 172 in the full costume. |
Oh, one more...
The passenger who complains loudly while deplaning that 'this airline is going to make me miss my connection!"... ...even though you've just arrived at the gate 20 minutes early. Happened twice on my last 4-day. What is it about air travel that makes the general population lose an average of 30 IQ points the moment they set foot inside a terminal? |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 1970687)
Well, it's OBVIOUSLY NOT the airline you work for ;)
And you are obviously NOT understanding what I'm saying. Because they screw their OWN guys in the process. Again, you're not understanding. You are assuming ALL airlines have the same policies and procedures, THEY DON'T. You ever done any JS committee work? This stuff gets real interesting. See above, it's NOT the airline where the "flow back" verbiage is used, nor an FA JS is an option. Let me break it down for you this way........ Scenario 1) Standing in the boarding area. A pilot (non-tool) comes up and says "hey man, I'm listed on the jumpseat, but I ALSO listed for a seat in the back. Hopefully I clear on my SA pass and we BOTH get home today". Again, this is the NON-TOOL variety/experienced commuter. Scenario 2) The tool variety; Standing in the boarding area, pilot walks up. "Are you trying to JS? I already listed for it. I didn't bother listing for a seat in the back". Dude walks off..... He WON'T "flow" to the back, he never listed. NON-TOOL pilot walks up "hey man, I'm on the JS also. I'm also listed for a seat in the back. That other guy (TOOL) can probably hold a seat in the back, I'm too junior too. If he listed for a seat in the back, I'd get on the JS. But he's not the type to list for both and considerate of other commuters". Does that make sense and clear it up? |
Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
(Post 1970649)
Aaaaand you had to ruin it with a "Roll Tide!!" Go Tar Heels!! :D
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