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Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 1970715)

What is it about air travel that makes the general population lose an average of 30 IQ points the moment they set foot inside a terminal?

Ah, I see the problem here. You mistakenly believed they had that extra 30 points to begin with.

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with an average SAT reading score of 496, 2012's graduating seniors have the dubious distinction of having attained the worst reading score since 1972.

SAT Reading Scores Are the Lowest Since 1972

Need more proof?

Individuals who think (and are smug/immature enough to crow about) how other groups of people they (supposedly) work with and FOR are stupid.

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Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 1970055)

Interesting you take so many life lessons from movies, as opposed to life or actual history.

Walk into any deloyed SOF camp. You'll be surprised at the lack of grooming standards and uniform uniformity. And yet....somehow they do what they do well.

Patton said what he said. He also picked his own uniforms.

Wait wait, I had to answer this one. Are you literally saying that professionalism isn't intrinsically tied to following rules and guidelines laid down by your company? Cause that's what it sounds like. Calm down sparky this ain't nam, and we ain't spec ops. And for the other super mileage non pilot guy, talking about pilot stuff, Being a good fighter pilot has nothing to do with being professional. I know many viper dudes that if I saw them in the left seat at boarding, I would turn my 2 kids around and we would non-rev to disneyland on the next flight. As tool of the day, I nominate any pilot who thinks they are above the law and breaks policy when it suits them. Slippery slope gentlemen, slippery slope.

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Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1970694)

On my own "metal", I ALWAYS list for a seat in the back on a pass, as well as the JS.

I think this is the source of confusion. This is NOT allowed (listing for both) at DL....

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Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1970687)

Does that make sense and clear it up?

Yep, it does, thanks.

I'm lucky only to have to commute on my own company's jets, so I'm unfamiliar with other companies' policies.

As Justdoinmyjob said, at DAL you can't list for both a JS and non-rev on the same flight, which is why your argument didn't make sense to me. Neither can you list for a JS or non-rev on more than one flight on the same city-pair on the same day. Keeps people from blocking all the seats, especially the JSs.

The situation you described is pretty crappy. I agree, they're toolish.

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Originally Posted by Hoser (Post 1970761)

It's that time of the year, had to! :D

Yes it is!

Flew a segment from ATL to DAL last week with a whole buncha 'Bama fans going to the game. The Captain is an Auburn guy but he had the class to make a PA and wish them all luck...with a "War Eagle" thrown in at the end. We could hear the "boos" and laughter and cheering in the cockpit.

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Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 1170275)

I'm sure you had the balls to tell him that you thought his PA was cheesy.

Telling him his PA is cheesy is more toolish than just letting him do it.

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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr (Post 1970862)

The situation you described is pretty crappy. I agree, they're toolish.

Yes, yes they are.........

And it's NOT just the self centered a-hole bastards that do it.

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Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1969832)

Guess why? They didn't enforce the rules. Enough guys were breaking them that they rolled over and allowed them. Same thing happened at Alaska.

Pilots were required to wear hats. However, management didn't enforce the uniform reg, so plenty of pilots were leaving them at home. Eventually, if you wore your hat, you were the odd ball.

Suddenly, lo and behold!, the MVP Golds started complaining that the pilots were looking bad and Alaska management decreed the hat was again required. Hopefully, they're enforcing their own uniform regulation.

Personally, I liked the system another airline has (has?). If someone in management saw you without your hat, they didn't excoriate you. They just ordered you a new hat, had it sent to your house and deducted the $75 from your paycheck.

Gotta hit pilots where they live...in the wallet. Now, if you walk around certain mainline hubs, you can tell at a glance who the mainline guys are and who the regional guys are. And it has nothing to do with age. It has everything to do with professional attire/demeanor.

Have you ever seen the movie 12 O'clock High? Its about a failing bomber squadron in 1942. When the CO is replaced, the first thing the new guy does is MANDATE uniforms, military regs, etc. Same thing in the movie Patton.

The theory and message is to get professional behavior and performance you have to start at the lowest level...uniforms, luggage, haircuts, etc. When people start complying at that level, there is a transferance that goes to all aspects of their performance.

So think about it. If you're slobbing around the terminal in view of your passengers, what message does that send to them about your ability to operate the aircraft in a safe, standard way? What do you think about the residents of the house you see with a bunch of rusty junk cars on blocks and garbage scattered throughout the yard?

Please don't project the "junior birdman trash" at work. It hurts all of us.

Ummmmmm, wow......

Did I say I wear a backpack, no I simply stated that UAL in their FOM ALLOWS people to carry a backpack if they so choose. I choose not to because I don't care for the look... Until I can afford to get the smaller flight bag I want I carry a laptop case with the things I need... I also utilize my reimbursements to have my shirts dry cleaned and starched so that they look professional, and have my shoes polished before every trip. Come October 15th I will be donning my hat and coat again as required in my FOM, at my last "regional trash/puke/unprofessional" airline whatever you want to call me I was required to wear the hat year round and did so both as an FO and a Captain.

Thanks for the professionalism rant "Captain Happy..."

Here is my vote, selfie and all:

Pilot caught texting during takeoff from Charlotte | The Charlotte Observer

I wonder why attorneys get such a bad rap.