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feltf4 01-04-2016 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by AC560 (Post 2039870)
Yes but do you light the fires?

I didn't see that in my pre flight guide

Flubber 01-04-2016 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2039532)
The thing that baffles me the most is it's the managers that are always the hardest to work with, what happened to leadership qualities? The ones that are the kindest are the kids who do it part time on the weekends or the guys/gals at the outstations usually

Not always... We had about a dozen pax connecting from an inbound LAX flight onto the last Philly-DC flight not too long ago. The agent was only willing to hold us 10 minutes. The manager agreed with me that it would be better to wait for them than (and less work for them in reaccomodating them). We ended up pushing about 15 minutes late, got into DCA on time, and never heard squat about the delay. Why penalize that many customers because their inbound flight was delayed a bit, especially when they'd all be staring at us at the window before we would even be disconnected from the tug?

I think part of it depends on whether said agent/manager uses their travel privs. Those who do, get the concept.

labbats 01-04-2016 05:22 PM

I always kick the front two tires. Hard to see if one is flat when so little weight is on them to show it. A little kick lets me know.

Learned that the hard way years ago.

Pogey Bait 01-04-2016 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 2039889)
I didn't see that in my pre flight guide

Oh it's in there.

ShyGuy 01-04-2016 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 2039849)
Yes they do. I once missed one when I arrived a half hour before departure. But that certainly doesn't make them tools. It makes them early with a plane full of pleased and contented passengers. What would have been toolish would have been me complaining about it on APC. On another note, I don't believe the story about the RJ pilot and the stolen deposits. Many things tripping my BS alarms.

Was this directed at me? The situation you mention with Alaska isn't the same thing. If they closed 30 prior and pushed 25 prior, then more power to them for getting all the confirmed passengers to their destinations sooner / early. Here, the gate agent closed the boarding door 20 early. The jetbridge was still hooked up. The plane didn't push 20 early. Or 15 early, or even 10. The plane pushed with an official out time of 7 early. This is hardly noteworthy for leaving early, this is pretty much standard/on time. Like I said, if I got to the gate and the plane was pushing back 15 early, more power to them. The difference is refusing to process a jumpseater when the airplane clearly wasn't going out early, and there was still time to do so.

CheapTrick 01-05-2016 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2040097)
Was this directed at me? The situation you mention with Alaska isn't the same thing. If they closed 30 prior and pushed 25 prior, then more power to them for getting all the confirmed passengers to their destinations sooner / early. Here, the gate agent closed the boarding door 20 early. The jetbridge was still hooked up. The plane didn't push 20 early. Or 15 early, or even 10. The plane pushed with an official out time of 7 early. This is hardly noteworthy for leaving early, this is pretty much standard/on time. Like I said, if I got to the gate and the plane was pushing back 15 early, more power to them. The difference is refusing to process a jumpseater when the airplane clearly wasn't going out early, and there was still time to do so.

Sorry you didn't get on. It is likely that everyone scheduled was on the aircraft early. As soon as the last peep is on that agent closed it out. Perhaps they were trying to push early. But my main point is that they aren't going to open the process back up after close out. Not for a jumpseater. The agents whole world revolves around getting that flight closed out on time. An early closeout is preferred and opening the process back up can only go bad for them.

I'm sure you know all this and still won't agree. But they are under job pressure that you are not. Their goals are not your goals. When there is a conflict, your goals will usually lose. Better luck next time and good luck finding a base that doesn't require a jumpseat ride.

dmeg13021 01-05-2016 04:58 AM

Today's winner.

cardiomd 01-05-2016 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by cactusmike (Post 2039764)
You have no clue how the FFDO program works. You don't seem to have much of a clue, period. Go lurk on Doctorsforum.com and leave flying to the professionals.

Aw, another FFDO wannabe? Leave the policymaking to the adults, cowboy. ;)

cardiomd 01-05-2016 05:00 AM

Today's tool is Mr. Sanchez, the flight school student aiming lasers at pilots. :confused:

Daytona Beach police arrest aviation student in airline laser pointing | News-JournalOnline.com

Dolphinflyer 01-05-2016 05:56 AM

^^^^^^^^

I think the "FLAP" above wins another TOTD hands down.


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