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LNL76 07-05-2016 10:58 AM

Just about as bad as the pilot I saw in IAD strolling into the airport wearing GRAY sneakers. Oh, and he had a gray backpack to match.

Maybe, just maybe he has foot problems BUT for Christ's sake, wear black sneakers so at least you don't stick out like a sore thumb.

SurferLucas 07-05-2016 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by cactusflyer (Post 2155884)
Nope, I'm at QX.

Flying with this guy reminds me of the quote from Futurama "he's technically correct, which is the best kind of correct", since the stuff he's saying is indeed in the manuals, but he refuses to admit that there's some room for common sense in how strictly said manuals are followed by the other 99% of pilots here.

Hilariously, he got an airplane stuck in the mud at an airport some time ago after blindly following the taxiway centerline, despite the fact that our manuals mention the need for intentionally oversteering to keep the mains on pavement in some situations.

Please tell me this is TH...if so, then yes...def TOTD material.

I used to give him the "Next Leg Undefined Checklist" when a 'No Link' was NXT in the box (it pops up as a message, I'm sure you know). It's in the redbook...and if we're going to be exactly standard, well, then he was going to read every checklist I could call for. :D

Tom a Hawk 07-05-2016 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 2156073)
I used to fly with a guy who carried and old school leather brief case. The kind you carry like 10s of thousands of dollars in.

He carried a change of boxers. A white shirt. A pair of running shoes.

For 8 days.

I pack pretty light, but that's gross.

cactusflyer 07-06-2016 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by SurferLucas (Post 2156513)
Please tell me this is TH...if so, then yes...def TOTD material.

I used to give him the "Next Leg Undefined Checklist" when a 'No Link' was NXT in the box (it pops up as a message, I'm sure you know). It's in the redbook...and if we're going to be exactly standard, well, then he was going to read every checklist I could call for. :D

You guessed correctly sir!

I had no idea there was a "next leg undefined" checklist, but I gave serious consideration to calling "master caution, parking brake" every time he set the brakes, or "master caution, tank fuel low" during startup.

SurferLucas 07-06-2016 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by cactusflyer (Post 2156985)
You guessed correctly sir!

I had no idea there was a "next leg undefined" checklist, but I gave serious consideration to calling "master caution, parking brake" every time he set the brakes, or "master caution, tank fuel low" during startup.

I believe it's in Chapter 4...somewhere around page 64... ;) (there's a nice list of FMS Message checklist in that area, that can be fun to call at random). Also, did he do fuel tracking for all flights over 1hr? :D

cardiomd 07-06-2016 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 2155885)
Some guys are just ham-fisted, bad pilots...hiding the fact that they've been in over their head their whole flying life. Never used experience and common-sense to get out of a jam in their career, and would never think of gleaning knowledge or technique from a lower humanoid (F/O).

They attempt make up for it by boning-up on useless legalese from their (frequently outdated) expansive book knowledge.

You are correct and the same in my experience in aviation and professional fields.

Also my experience is that the worst fellow pilots I've come across are the ones that assume all other pilots (or anybody else) are terrible at flying. It is because they found it extremely difficult themselves, and possibly were not exposed to, or able to perform, other complex things in life (mastering a musical instrument, learning a foreign language, etc.) Unfortunately there are similar characters in my field too - the guy that always tries to recite useless irrelevant facts but is terrible with a scalpel. :rolleyes:

prex8390 07-14-2016 09:34 AM

I feel like this is starting to become a regular trend for me but crew members that throw little kid tantrums when the hotel van isn't immediately outside when we walk out.

It's really embarrassing to be standing outside with a crew member throwing a fit becuase we have been out there all of 2 minutes and you've decided to call the hotel twice and cuss out the poor desk clerk about the whereabouts of his van and call him a liar saying he would be there. And then continue to Vent and steam in front of passengers also at the curb. It reflects poorly on us.

I get it when it's a stand up or a 10-12 hour overnight but when we have 18+ hours at the XYZ airport north/south/east/west hotel, just chill out a minute. And don't make me call the hotel either. I'm not the one who lost my temper. Enjoy the nice day out and have a little patience.

vagabond 07-14-2016 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2161300)
I feel like this is starting to become a regular trend for me but crew members that throw little kid tantrums when the hotel van isn't immediately outside when we walk out.

It's really embarrassing to be standing outside with a crew member throwing a fit becuase we have been out there all of 2 minutes and you've decided to call the hotel twice and cuss out the poor desk clerk about the whereabouts of his van and call him a liar saying he would be there. And then continue to Vent and steam in front of passengers also at the curb. It reflects poorly on us.

I get it when it's a stand up or a 10-12 hour overnight but when we have 18+ hours at the XYZ airport north/south/east/west hotel, just chill out a minute. And don't make me call the hotel either. I'm not the one who lost my temper. Enjoy the nice day out and have a little patience.

I saw something like that one day. Don't know the airline, but it was embarrassing to everyone and not professional at all. It made this cranky old lawyer want to go over and say something to the juvenile Captain. This type of behavior is 100 times worse than walking around with a Hello Kitty backpack.

Packrat 07-14-2016 04:53 PM

But I LOVE Hello Kitty!

NERD 07-14-2016 07:03 PM

Hotels sign a contract stipulating what is required for wait times. Some hotels will just run the vans at set times and if you just miss it, you wait a whole cycle (30 mins ) in most cases. Our contract says 20 mins. I'll give them an extra 5, maybe 10, then I cab it and either the front desk pays, or I expense it and get reimbursed 6 weeks later. No reason to get the blood pressure up over and get angry.


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