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Originally Posted by Karloffstall (Post 2148250)

I didn't find myself in any situation because I did my job and flew the plane (i.e. increased the power and speed to avoid a situation) when he became negligent in performing his duties as pilot flying.

did you bring it up with pro standards or anyone? Or just wait and make a TOTD post about it?

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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2149064)

did you bring it up with pro standards or anyone? Or just wait and make a TOTD post about it?

Not sure how other pro stans work, but if I'm correct about the airline in question, pro stans is only allowed to deal with personality-conflict and cockpit climate type issues. If direct operational of safety considerations are involved (they are in this case) pro stans won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

So the noob might have a choice of calling the CP, or biatching on APC...

Today's TOTD.

The guy walking around ATL wearing a sleeveless gray argyle sweater over his uniform with his epaulettes ever so slightly visible.

You, sir, are at the forefront of flight crew fashion.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2149137)

Just wearing a sleeveless argyle sweater would qualify on its own. No bow tie?

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Originally Posted by qball (Post 2149209)

Just wearing a sleeveless argyle sweater would qualify on its own. No bow tie?

Need the wing tip shoes too. Oh let's not forget the tam either.

To the Delta Flight northbound from Colombia today. Maybe not TOTD, but a worthy attempt. Immunity granted for Latin/South/New Hire Newbies.

The sequence of ATC was as follows,
Bogota Center
Barranquilla South
Barranquilla North
Kingston Center
Havana Center
MIA Center

Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.

Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.

Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"
Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.

Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.

FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.

My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2151975)

To the Delta Flight northbound from Colombia today. Maybe not TOTD, but a worthy attempt. Immunity granted for Latin/South/New Hire Newbies.

The sequence of ATC was as follows,

Bogota Center

Barranquilla South

Barranquilla North

Kingston Center

Havana Center

MIA Center

Every handoff/new contact was standard, fine, no problem.

Problems? Every single approach to an FIR boundary was a call to the center requesting the next centers frequency up to and including MIA Center. Newflash for our heroes, it's written in the King's English on the chart you were issued. Read up on it.

Also, there were no less than three separate calls asking "Hello Bogota/Barranquilla, are you still there?"

Things are quiet down there at certain times, be quiet and if they want to talk to you, they will call on Guard.

Problem #2, there were three separate instances of calling the next FIR boundary center on Guard instead of the right frequency. Kudos to the polite Guard cops away from the RJ infested NE USA.

FYI, one doesn't have to contact MIA center 10 minutes prior northbound from "Koo-ba" anymore.

My bets are a Chief Pilot or Schoolhouse problem child CA was onboard. I personally like my peace and quiet for naptime at that time of day and of course, my radio discipline is flawless :D:D:D

I have a decent amount of time flying around that area and granted the aircraft were older and less than stellar I did find myself lost comm occasionally until I was able to get a relay from another A/C for a new freq. More so happened headed to Brazil dealing with Venezuela. I found it helpful to grab a backup freq from them to not have to try out the entire list on the charts.

As for calling MIA 10 min before, UAL just put out a bulletin stating this is required.

Lighten up, Francis ^^^^^ I'm thinking that the first several times you crossed the Carib you didn't sound all that polished either.

Dolphin...you're the tool. Thank you for self disclosing.

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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2151975)

Yeah, the crew could have done their homework. Very easy to review Pans Ops and Jeppy Manuals. Laziness comes into mind. However, at the end of the day, I vote for crappy training from those who've never been further from the underground from ATL. Operators within Austrial Asia know how this stuff works. Why not DAL? The other day, listening to a crew arguing with Brisbane Center justifying SLOP whilst operating in radar contact in Brisbane Center's radar without appropriate clearance. Argggg.