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captjns 08-08-2016 03:29 AM

Before heading overseas, I greeted jumpseaters in the boarding area. I checked their credentials, took the flight crew copy of their jumpseat pass and told them to enjoy the hospitality and didn't have to check in with us whilst boarding or deplaning. Busy times... don't need nor like interruptions while completing paperwork, FMC programming, checklists, briefings and what not. Couldn't care less if they didn't poke their heads in while deplaning. Perhaps they are preoccupied with issues such as short time at home, connecting flights, or family issues.

Overseas, only company pilots are eligible for the jumpseat. Some would and some wouldn't come in the cockpit to say hey or bye. Same applies for most.... many don't care if jumpseaters come to the cockpit to bestow good tidings or farewells.

I can understand that some may take it as an affront when the crew's greet or farewell is ignored. But at the end of the day, is it the end of the world? Should one take a picture of the "offending" jumpseater, and draw a red circle with a slash on the portrait indicating a ban from their jumpseat? Believe it or not some crewmembers kept a log of jumpseat riders with a check or an X next to their names.

At the end of the day, there are more important issues to deal with on a day to day basis whilst operating a four sector day then getting wrapped around the axle about unfriendly or considered to be rude jumpseaters.

Luv2Rotate 08-08-2016 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2176104)
No, I just figured that perhaps the guy was having a bad day. Or that he was one of those guys with a chip on his shoulder about the regionals. Or possibly that he was just really antisocial.

Could be all of the above. However, complaining about it on a forum makes you look "toolish". If you're that bothered by his/her actions call them on it. Complaining here accomplishes nothing.

Turbosina 08-08-2016 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 2176140)
Seriously? You have got to be kiddin me. You want non revs togive you a thanks? All gate agents, FAs, parents, children? What makes ita common courtesy? Who made that rule? Do you feel special if someone says thanks.

Please if you are non reving on my flight, DONT come up say thanks. Get in your seat and relax.

You're not getting it. I was standing in the doorway, greeting all the pax. All of them, except this guy, either returned or acknowledged my greeting.

I would never expect a nonrev to poke their head in the flight deck and say hi. I certainly don't, when I'm nonrevving. But to blatantly ignore someone standing there welcoming you on board , I think that's just rude.

Dolphinflyer 08-08-2016 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2175995)
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.

After getting older, I've realized that sometimes people have a lot on their minds and omit the courtesy's sometimes. Guy might have been awake for 48 hours too.
On one two-leg Europe trip, I thought about calling out a older FA for a lack of simple crew courtesy. She kinda of stared and would walk away multiple times (not operational stuff). Glad I didn't. I later learned her husband died suddenly something like 5 days prior. 3 days prior she found out he hadn't paid any life insurance bills and the bank accounts were empty. She had to work the trip to pay the rent (already used bereavement pay for trip earlier).

If you see "Captain Happy" 2 or 3 more times down the road, then he should be a candidate for TOTD. It's rare, but there are still a few of us with the recluse non-social engineer behavior.

Turbosina 08-08-2016 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2176281)
After getting older, I've realized that sometimes people have a lot on their minds and omit the courtesy's sometimes. Guy might have been awake for 48 hours too.
On one two-leg Europe trip, I thought about calling out a older FA for a lack of simple crew courtesy. She kinda of stared and would walk away multiple times (not operational stuff). Glad I didn't. I later learned her husband died suddenly something like 5 days prior. 3 days prior she found out he hadn't paid any life insurance bills and the bank accounts were empty. She had to work the trip to pay the rent (already used bereavement pay for trip earlier).

If you see "Captain Happy" 2 or 3 more times down the road, then he should be a candidate for TOTD. It's rare, but there are still a few of us with the recluse non-social engineer behavior.

Good point, you're absolutely right. If my wife had passed 5 days prior I wouldn't be able to drive myself to the airport, let alone fly an airplane...

Silver02ex 08-08-2016 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 2176090)
Is it required for all non-revs to acknowledge you and say thanks? If he was pass riding what is the big deal? He was using a seat in the cabin and sounds like you were trying to elicit a thanks for giving him the ride when in actuality it was his pass privilege that actually got him the ride.

Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.


Is it required for the passengers who paid for those seats to say "Thanks" ? Many passengers still say, Hello, or Thanks during the boarding and deplaning. It's not about, non-reving, or Jumpseating. It's just being nice to another person. It's sad that we have many passengers who paid for those seats, that took the time to say hello, or thank us as we they are walking out, but it sounds like it's too much trouble for some pilots.

John Carr 08-08-2016 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2176316)
Is it required for the passengers who paid for those seats to say "Thanks" ? Many passengers still say, Hello, or Thanks during the boarding and deplaning. It's not about, non-reving, or Jumpseating. It's just being nice to another person. It's sad that we have many passengers who paid for those seats, that took the time to say hello, or thank us as we they are walking out, but it sounds like it's too much trouble for some pilots.

^^^^^^

As well as customers that do it even when we're late/delayed, had a terrible ride with turbulence, etc.

trip 08-08-2016 11:12 AM

Lots of people are miserable in this business, including old legacy pilots.

iceman49 08-08-2016 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2176408)
Lots of people are miserable in this business, including old legacy pilots.

There are, you can also add to those that are miserable, new legacy pilots. Everyone has a bad day...just move along.

FloridaLarry 08-08-2016 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 2173708)
I always thought those nipple slips were photoshopped in. Huh. Well, now I know....

Nipple slips pre-dated PhotoShop (and the rest of the electronic photo editing software) by a long shot.

That's what they were - a shot with a v-e-r-y long (focal-length) lens.

Photo-editing then was a matter of an air-brush or very fine bristle brush on a optical negative or print.

Different technology, same outcome. Like rotary piston power vs turbo-prop.;)


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