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Turbosina 09-28-2016 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2212387)
I think you missed the joke - it was likely the guard guy that was fooling around with Delta "authorizing" their push on guard, and then finally saying "you're on guard". At least that's how I read it.

And I think you weren't there, and don't know what you're talking about. The guy who responded with the push clearance was a different guy from the one who reminded everyone that they were on Guard.

WHACKMASTER 09-28-2016 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2212387)
All guard police are tools and that is a nationwide thing in my experience.

And non-airline pilots that continuously pontificate on an AIRLINE PILOT forum are what then?!

I'm wondering what the reception would be if I posted on a doctor's forum.

Hetman 09-28-2016 09:27 AM

I have found that more often than not, miscommunication, for whatever reason, is best sorted out directly between the parties involved and that "help" from parties outside the discussion, whether intended to actually be helpful or not, usually doesn't help.

PotatoChip 09-28-2016 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2212387)
The blaaaccccked people are mostly doing it on approach freqs. One day I'll record it and put it on youtube, some of the really bad stuff I'm sure you'll agree the "blaaacccckkkeedd" was not helping at all. :rolleyes:

Don't know why you had to go racial on us...

maddogmax 09-28-2016 10:03 AM

Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.

FMGEC 09-28-2016 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by potatochip (Post 2212570)
don't know why you had to go racial on us...

Controller's Lives Matter

Firsttimeflyer 09-28-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 2212584)
Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.

Then why do they occasionally ask aircraft to try to contact other aircraft...or check frequency readability and signal strength. (Most guys have no clue what that is and just say 5 by 5 if they can hear it.

Pilots don't know how many frequencies a controller is working, and sometimes a pilot and a controller are stepping on each other, hearing "blocked" usually indicates to other pilots to listen up to the controller and there are times the controller has no idea he is getting blocked and then gets ****ed. if nobody says "blocked" the controller will finally get a word in and then sometimes will say something to the effect of "callsign xxxx third call contact....." when in fact it's the fault of some reject racist doctor in a 182 that doesn't know when to just listen.

cardiomd 09-28-2016 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2212415)
And I think you weren't there, and don't know what you're talking about. The guy who responded with the push clearance was a different guy from the one who reminded everyone that they were on Guard.

Lol ok.


Originally Posted by Hetman (Post 2212544)
I have found that more often than not, miscommunication, for whatever reason, is best sorted out directly between the parties involved and that "help" from parties outside the discussion, whether intended to actually be helpful or not, usually doesn't help.

I agree entirely. It began to be ridiculous and wasn't helping. Some of the "blahhked" people were doing it to be funny/annoying, and not because there is a long silence after a blocked and there is a question regarding receipt. It was particularly annoying because the channel was busy for a very good reason during the time.

I really didn't think this would be controversial. But obviously the short crowd have to try to prove they are better aviators than a doctor and bring out the insults! :eek:


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 2212584)
Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.

Yep. My experience asking a few too.

maddogmax 09-28-2016 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 2212698)
Then why do they occasionally ask aircraft to try to contact other aircraft...or check frequency readability and signal strength. (Most guys have no clue what that is and just say 5 by 5 if they can hear it.

Pilots don't know how many frequencies a controller is working, and sometimes a pilot and a controller are stepping on each other, hearing "blocked" usually indicates to other pilots to listen up to the controller and there are times the controller has no idea he is getting blocked and then gets ****ed. if nobody says "blocked" the controller will finally get a word in and then sometimes will say something to the effect of "callsign xxxx third call contact....." when in fact it's the fault of some reject racist doctor in a 182 that doesn't know when to just listen.

You just made my case. If they want help, they will ask for it. Nine times out of ten, if it takes 3 calls to get a reply from an aircraft it's because the pilots were talking to each other about how to bid, contract negotiations, etc., not by being blocked. Saying "blocked" could actually block the controllers second or third attempt to contact the aircraft.

cardiomd 09-28-2016 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 2211475)
I say BLOOOCKED all the time. Works great both at home and the office.


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2212008)
Reminds me of that old "office quarterback commercial" ;)


And here you go. We need to get Terry Tate to fix anybody that says "blaahhhkeeeddd" or any other toolish behavior. He would be a great asset to any flight crew!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzToNo7A-94

I'm showing my age - those commercials were from 2003 and I thought it was 5 years ago. :o


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