Tool of the day
01-21-2017, 10:39 AM
#8821
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Will require pics to validate this statement.
Originally Posted by NERD
Beat me to it. I was going to see if she was single
Originally Posted by flyingberk
Lol! My industry, ladies and gentlemen.
01-21-2017, 11:16 PM
#8822
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Posts: 193
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Preach it! It only takes a quick look around at the pilot ranks to see that the argument of women and minorities "takin' er jerbs!" doesn't hold any water. I can think of plenty of "average white male" types (myself included!) in the aviation world who have advanced well ahead of better qualified and more deserving minority populations.
Never underestimate the shrillness of angry white men!
This guy in another thread also caught my eye. As a white, secular male I guess I shouldn't care how Alabama treats blacks, or how Germany treats Jews or how human traffickers treat refugees? I'm not part of any of those groups so it's not my concern, right? I should just butt out? Great! That's a weight off my mind
Never underestimate the shrillness of angry white men!
This guy in another thread also caught my eye. As a white, secular male I guess I shouldn't care how Alabama treats blacks, or how Germany treats Jews or how human traffickers treat refugees? I'm not part of any of those groups so it's not my concern, right? I should just butt out? Great! That's a weight off my mind
01-22-2017, 04:10 AM
#8823
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
Yes, you're just a regular white knight and defended of the weak.
01-22-2017, 06:44 AM
#8825
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
I would hardly consider giving a bowl movement about issues affecting others being a "white knight and defended(er?) of the weak". But hey, if you want to set the bar that low that's up to you.
01-22-2017, 03:28 PM
#8827
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
You're the one who's been defending one of the last forms of institutional racism/discrimination left In this country for the last few pages and how proud you are as a "secular white male" for doing it.
Originally Posted by Mugatu
I nominate you guys for Tools of the Day for hijacking Tool of the Day thread, especially with politics. Ain't makin' it fun anymore.
Last edited by freezingflyboy; 01-22-2017 at 03:40 PM.
01-22-2017, 04:11 PM
#8828
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Posts: 774
Originally Posted by flyingberk
Originally Posted by dawgdriver View Post
Yes, photos of men standing in long lines at the Women in Aviation job fairs. Yes, Begging. While you're looking, note the lack of women in the photo; no need to spend money getting there because women will get hired because of quotas. They are allowed to bypass much of the pain getting to majors/legacies. Straight to the front of the line. Why spend money on training with the myriad of scholarships only available to women? How often have we seen women get hired with FAR less qualifications than their male counterparts. Hey, great gig if you can get it; I would take advantage of it if I were a woman too. But please, enough already with the gender warfare coming from the privileged class.
^^ That guy. That's not how Affirmative Action works!! All it means is if say 10% of a region is a certain race or gender, then one would expect to see roughly 10% of that region's workforce as being that race or gender. It doesn't mean "hire all of the women." It means "ATTEMPT to show a statistically accurate representation of your application pool in your hiring process in order to avoid discrimination, but still hire the most qualified applicant."
And isn't it common knowledge that it's not what you know, it's who you know? Of course some people (white male and minority both) are being hired over more qualified counterparts; they are friends with a chief or are better at networking themselves or are better at filling out that damn Airline App. I'm so sick of being told that I've had it so easy because I'm a chick. No, actually, I worked my a$$ off for over a decade, just like everyone else, just to get to the regional level. And just like everyone else, I'm stuck playing the stupid Job Fair game waiting and hoping for an interview call. My *** have had zero effect on my aviation career thus far, except maybe to give me back problems.
Phew. Rant over.
Yes, photos of men standing in long lines at the Women in Aviation job fairs. Yes, Begging. While you're looking, note the lack of women in the photo; no need to spend money getting there because women will get hired because of quotas. They are allowed to bypass much of the pain getting to majors/legacies. Straight to the front of the line. Why spend money on training with the myriad of scholarships only available to women? How often have we seen women get hired with FAR less qualifications than their male counterparts. Hey, great gig if you can get it; I would take advantage of it if I were a woman too. But please, enough already with the gender warfare coming from the privileged class.
^^ That guy. That's not how Affirmative Action works!! All it means is if say 10% of a region is a certain race or gender, then one would expect to see roughly 10% of that region's workforce as being that race or gender. It doesn't mean "hire all of the women." It means "ATTEMPT to show a statistically accurate representation of your application pool in your hiring process in order to avoid discrimination, but still hire the most qualified applicant."
And isn't it common knowledge that it's not what you know, it's who you know? Of course some people (white male and minority both) are being hired over more qualified counterparts; they are friends with a chief or are better at networking themselves or are better at filling out that damn Airline App. I'm so sick of being told that I've had it so easy because I'm a chick. No, actually, I worked my a$$ off for over a decade, just like everyone else, just to get to the regional level. And just like everyone else, I'm stuck playing the stupid Job Fair game waiting and hoping for an interview call. My *** have had zero effect on my aviation career thus far, except maybe to give me back problems.
Phew. Rant over.
A different potential employer asked her if she was planing on having any more kids, worring about any potential maternity leave.
Another owner picked her up from a trip and pulled into a hotel parking lot, talking about sending her to school for typed equipment and asking her if he should go inside and "get a room". She resigned rather than having to work a job with that type of undertone.
True story
Sad part is, it's all pure jealousy. NO ONE is complaining regionals are hireing "under qualified" women FO's for $25 bucks an hour, because they're hiring everyone in sight. Everyone only identifies an "un-qualified" female at a major carrier which is a job they want for themselves.
01-22-2017, 05:44 PM
#8829
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Will require pics to validate this statement.
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
I guess on the plus side, most of these guys wouldn't have the balls to say this stuff to your face. So...progress?
You may wish to read back to see who first raised the topic. I'm glad that flyingberk appears to have the requisite sense of humor to have taken it in context.
PS: Under/over on how long until UAL T38 Phlyer bowdlerizes your post...?
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