Not really though, because you are assuming everyone of those 10% also wants to work in this exact same industry as the other 90% and that they all have their applications in. That's just not the case. I was an Aerospace engineering major and females in that field were rare, and a minority female were rarer still. It doesn't mean the university was biased against females for aerospace engineering acceptance. For every 100 total students maybe 3 were minority females, even though the general population could be like 25% are minority females. In this case, there just weren't minority females applying to this field. So you certainly can't say you'd expect 25% of those spots to be minority female because the reality was there just weren't even that many applying to it. And yes, affirmative action is bull****.

 

Will require pics to validate this statement.

 

Beat me to it. I was going to see if she was single

 

Lol! My industry, ladies and gentlemen.

 

Yeah - look at their decorations in terminals for the holidays. Their employees put some serious effort into those displays. Not my cup of tea but hey somebody seems to like it.

I was pretty shocked on some corners of aviation and how open the bad treatment women/minorities. One of my DPEs sat for the first part of the test telling aviation-themed women and ***er jokes in the FBO lobby to a bunch of the instructors while they laughed nervously, probably continues as because minorities and women are really rare, only seen a few. As long as there are more applicants than positions the discrimination and "reverse discrimination" claims will be a continuing issue. Everybody loves a scapegoat for that one position you were "supposed" to get.

Medicine is far from perfect too, but almost all medical school student classes are 50% female in the past few decades and at least overt mistreatment is not as common.

 

If your going to argue this, don't argue with yourself.

If 10% of a region is a certain race or gender, but 1% of the APPLICANTS are of that race or gender, hiring 100% of them would still leave you short of the suggested targets. Therein lies the problem.

I don't care one way or the other, but your argument is disingenuous.

Pipe

 

Found out that some of my information was wrong. My husband works for a company that handles affirmative action regulatory compliance.

So here's how this works. Numbers are pulled in two different ways, by county and by census area. Regardless of how the numbers are pulled in, all they look at are percentages and ratios. This does not mean that if you have an available workforce that is 30% black that you have to have a similar percentage of your workforce be 30% black. That's where the ratios come into play. All we look at is if the company is in danger of discriminatory hiring practices.

The purpose of AA is not to tell you to only choose female minorities (that in itself discriminates against white men). Its purpose is to weed out companies that are doing this. AA says to hire the most qualified applicant FIRST, and then make considerations for their race, gender or protected status (disability and veterans).

 

EEO-Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) | National Archives

Affirmative Action: Positive steps taken by an employer which contribute toward greater employment opportunities for minorities, females, the elderly, and the disabled. In federal employment, extra effort must be made to include qualified women, minorities, employees over 40, and the disabled at grade levels and in job categories where they are under represented.

Affirmative Action Plans/Affirmative Employment Plan: Written plans for programs required by Executive Order 11478 and other laws and regulations. AAP's may contain studies which show how the work force at the activity has been used, and may include goals and timetables for increasing the representation of protected class members in those areas where they have been under represented.

 

I guess on the plus side, most of these guys wouldn't have the balls to say this stuff to your face. So...progress?

 

Yes, you're just a regular white knight and defended of the weak.