He forgot to continue and say she's now at Delta or United or Fedex.

 

I didn't because she's not, still slugging it out with every dude that gripes and b****es every time a woman is hired.

In fairness though, in my experance the most worthless people in protected hiring categories are the ones that benefit most, which is why they have such a stigma.

 

I am glad we live in a county that is so reformed that you can't even believe reality.

It is all true, in fact the person who asked during an interview if she was planning on having any more kids was a women. She thought it was a valid question to protect her boss's, the owner's, interest in the money and time it takes to train and hire a pilot.

I've talked to fellow pilots and some have agreed small flight departments can't afford for a pilot to be on 12 weeks leave for babies. Somehow they can afford a million dollar airplane though.

I've asked some guys if they thought it would be fair if an employer asked them if they were planning of having kids, they said "well no" why " well because I am not a women" why does that matter, "because it's not my job to take care of the kids".

I forgot two more stories, they were never formal interviews so no one knows how they would have resulted anyways.

Cheif pilot knows likes her and has an opening, goes home and talks to his wife about it, and she says NO WAY, no female co-pilots, PERIOD. Guy calls and told her he fought with his wife for 3 hours, but lost, and cant use her.

Another story was similar except it was the aircraft owner's wife. She could be used for day trips only. Therefore would never be hired with full benefits, because they still had a need for multi day trips which his wife said, no way!

 

Reality or your "stories"?

 

If that's true, then it's really women holding each other down because of their insecurities. I nominate women for being tool of the day for doing that!

 

[QUOTE=PruneJuice;2287011]Reality or your "stories"?[/QUOTE

Reality,

I didn't realize they were so unbelievable.

Top three reasons:

1) The Cheap Wad, thinks it to expensive to hire a contract pilot while his is on maternity leave, and pay short term disability, plus she could drag up after the first kid and be a stay at home mom. Also reliability, if I call at 10pm for a 6am pop up trip, she might not be able to get the kids covered.

2) The Super Duper Christian, thinks the mom is the cornerstone of a wholesome family and she will thank me one day for not hiring her when her kids grow up and aren't on drugs. "We are on the road way to much to try and raise a family". Also can be old fashion think mixed crews are "inappropriate" in general.

3) The Jealous Wife, guy thinks he doesn't need to prove to himself he's not a sexist by hiring a female. He knows he's not, and certainly isn't going to backstab his wife buy hiring a mid 20's/30's female just to prove he can resist temptation, or isn't a sexist.

None of these people think they are discriminating against women, we were taught discrimination is from hatred or malice in your heart, which they have none.

You must be in a union shop and have been for a very long time to be so far removed from reality. Your horizons have now been expanded.

Just FYI, I do think that every woman that's jumps up and says they failed some training, or wasn't hired for LCA or chief pilot because they are female is lying and in denial of their own shortcomings.
The real discrimination situations don't have lawsuits, grievances, or arbitrations, those women just take there licks and keep moving on. There is really nothing they can do about it, and the offenders don't feel like they did anything wrong because the reasoning is reasonable and logical.

 

MOD INPUT: OK, I think we've beat affirmative action to death here. As toolish as it may be, let's move on to other more entertaining tools. This thread is not fun right now.

Thanks.

 

I nominate Sir Tim Clark for doing this:

Statement from the Partnership for Open & Fair Skies on Emirates? Route to Newark - Partnership for Open and Fair Skies » Partnership for Open and Fair Skies

 

I'm going to nominate the a-hole pax on my commute last night. To start, this jack wagon acts like a petulant child to the gate agent about not getting his upgrade. To the point she had to ask him firmly to step aside. This is for a 40 minute flight. I boarded right behind this piece of work. His reply to the flight attendant's pleasant smile and "welcome aboard"? A gruff "Diet coke. Row 17. And I want it before we take off." For his next trick, when we park and the seatbelt sign comes off this moron shoves his way three rows up the aisle, rams his bag into my butt and gets wheel dirt all over the back of my pant leg. I know the flight was late but are you EFFING NEW HERE!? Early, late, on time or on FIRE, no one goes anywhere when the door isn't open and there are 40 people in front of you! You sir, are what make flying an obnoxious experience for everyone else involved. I hope you got to the parking lot and found your car was stolen.

 

I love I when the seatbelt sign comes off and people immediately get up and spend the next 10 minutes hunched over as I continue reading my newspaper. It gives me inner peace-chakras.