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Old 06-14-2012 | 07:06 AM
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Perhaps you might share some of your experiences in property management?

A description of the job and daily duties for those unfamiliar.
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I will go into detail later today or tomorrow morning about property management but I have to leave right now to do some property management stuff. Check back.

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Old 06-14-2012 | 07:14 AM
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The problem with a sole-less job that pays nothing is that the company needs to find people who will do it.
It's probably hard to find people who will come to work barefoot or in socks.
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Old 06-14-2012 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Think about it.

Part 141 schools and the university system is the perfect assembly line for punching out automatons for the airlines. No room for creativity or discovery. Stay on the path. Force fed facts. Regurgitate memory items. Stand in line. We have been heading towards this future for a long time now.

If you want to become an airline pilot it is better not to know what it is like to fly off syllabus. Sully is right but he also is wrong. Experienced lifelong aviators who have built their long careers over many steps before reaching the airlines are leaving the flight deck however overall safety is not.

The airlines do not need to pay for experience anymore. Automation is safer than hand flying. The pride of Airbus is that their planes are (largely) pilot proof. Take away the pay and satisfaction that comes from the sensation of really being in control and there is nothing left to hold the seasoned pilot. Modern aviation needs mindless automatons.

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Name one current transport aircraft design that does not allow the pilot to be in control?

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Old 06-14-2012 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Modern aviation needs mindless automatons.
Occasionally it needs to be restated but I am a pilot after all. If Alaska Airlines were to call I would have to go. Working for that company is my dream.
Hey Nanook, we've got a live one for you. He secretly loves to push buttons. Please make that phone call and do us all a favor.
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Old 06-14-2012 | 08:28 AM
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I found an article stating that fully-automated property managers are coming soon. Most existing property managers are already on full autopilot as we know, but this is much more. The article said the automated property manager could all but eliminate the need for twenty-four year olds doing this job. It went on to say the technology can inspect dumpsters, call a tow truck, distribute flyers, charge a pet fee, raise the rent, and write an inane monthly newsletter as well as any human! I was flabbergasted. I am writing my congressman.
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Old 06-14-2012 | 08:53 AM
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I would like to point out again that I merely passed along quotes from Bill Voss, the president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation. There are not my ideas but the Director of Flight Safety's words.
Which are by your own admission have been....

(Warning: These statements have been taken out of context, but it is still accurate for my purposes.)
So I guess they really aren't the words of Bill Voss exactly as they were meant to be interpreted? Rather they are the words that are used to further SH's agenda. And that agenda is to punish anybody who's been successful where he has failed.

I own and manage several rental properties. It's a heck of a lot less stressful and takes much less thought, skill, experience and training than flying a "fully automated" airliner. But that should be obvious to the average person.
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Old 06-14-2012 | 10:11 AM
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To anyone who thinks they can tell others what will make them happy, or even what their own happiness will be, may I suggest "Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven", 36 pages of interesting thoughts written in 1909.

http://publicliterature.org/pdf/cptsf10.pdf
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Old 06-14-2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR
Name one current transport aircraft design that does not allow the pilot to be in control?
Your hands are on the controls but it is the director of flight operations and Airbus who are the ones who are actually flying the plane. As airline pilots our decisions and reactions are pre-planned by engineers and managers. Our job is to be able to regurgitate their instructions at the appointed time and situation.

Besides that I an not an Airbus pilot but from what I know the pilot tells the plane what he/she wants it to do and the plane decides if and how it will accomplish that, so who really is flying the plane? It seems to me that at best the pilot of an Airbus is directing the flight computer and the flight computer flies the plane.

Ergo The pride of Airbus "Our planes are pilot proof". Please Airbus guys don't be shy and correct me if I am wrong.

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Old 06-14-2012 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
To anyone who thinks they can tell others what will make them happy, or even what their own happiness will be, may I suggest "Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven", 36 pages of interesting thoughts written in 1909.

http://publicliterature.org/pdf/cptsf10.pdf
I am not suggesting what will make people happy but if you want a valued and secure profession some of these advances should give pause.

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Old 06-14-2012 | 02:46 PM
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Which are by your own admission have been....



So I guess they really aren't the words of Bill Voss exactly as they were meant to be interpreted? Rather they are the words that are used to further SH's agenda. And that agenda is to punish anybody who's been successful where he has failed.

I own and manage several rental properties. It's a heck of a lot less stressful and takes much less thought, skill, experience and training than flying a "fully automated" airliner. But that should be obvious to the average person.
Hoss,

I put the link to the Nightline story in my first post. I suggest that you go and watch it. It is a good story about the Air France crash but it is what is said regarding automation and the future of airline pilots is what I found to be most interesting.

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