Can't blame you there, I would have quit too, hard to believe you went so cheap.

 

I knew automation was dangerous and degrading, next thing you know they will be hoeing your mulch and surfing the web on their Iphone at the same time.

Gosh darn it, life is right problematical at times.

 

Lawn mowers driven by sociopaths! Run!!

 

Amazing. Just like the other thread.

I'll just recycle some posts from the "The Ugly Truth" thread:




You stopped posting in that thread, and you're ignoring me in this thread ... I think I see how this is going.



By the way ... if you bid on my lawn business and claim you can complete the job in 15 minutes, you'll get a resounding, "NO".






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You will also get a resounding no if you want $40 unless it's a huge yard.

 

Sully mentioned to congress that the lifelong aviator was going away. People who were genuinely interested in aviation. They types who come from diverse backgrounds that were developed over a decade or two prior to reaching the airlines.

In their place we have manufactured company men by design. Somewhere around 1998 there must have been a regional airline executive conference someplace because it seems that from that point on the regionals began to actively select away from seasoned and experienced pilots from broad backgrounds and hire the 300 hour wonder instead.

I saw this at my own regional. They had guys in reception holding resumes with thousands of hours of experience and guys with as little as 290 hours sitting in class. It was a choice. The company believed that the zero time guys were better somehow and they were of course. Guys with experience do not have to stay. In fact they frequently left once the saw the depression pit that place was first hand.

New guys were different, they were challenged and happy, did not have many bills to pay for and could not leave even to flight instruct. The perfect company men. The legacy airlines do not like to hire those who come from diverse backgrounds either. They like guys who have been installed at a regional early on and who stayed in their little cubicle in the sky without causing trouble for years.

Guys with messy backgrounds like Sully was referring to often have things like helicopters and gliders in their logbooks. They may have held a range of jobs like missionary flying or crop dusting. Plenty of situations there to have scratched or bent something. Add to that the flippant nature of their employment history and to an HR representative you look like a flake. Pilots from diverse backgrounds are too confident, too arrogant.

The real reason though is that the airlines have learned that they do not need to pay for experience anymore. Just plug in a low time automaton straight from the university system and watch them take mountains of abuse with a smile on their face. Furthermore once conditioned at an early age they will continue to do so for a career. They do not know any better because they have not held other jobs before.

It works like a charm.

Skyhigh

 

Has anyone even seen the news article? Can we get some kind of mature rebuttal out of you guys or do we have to degrade the conversation to that of discussing regional lawn mowing rates? I have the bills to prove my position.

Skyhigh

 

Sky - you are the one who brought up lawn mowing and any other numerous fringe jobs that you like to use to push your agenda. If you want more mature responses then engage in conversation and quit just reciting the same old tired diatribe over and over again. You've been asked direct questions which you have failed numerous times to answer. A little different outside of the your usual forum isn't it?

USMCFLYR

 

The messy background you refer to describes me perfectly except for the arrogant part. I know quite a few folks at the big airlines with similar backgrounds. You see I work at a legacy airline therefore I actually have first hand knowledge. Unlike yourself who lives, breaths and regurgitates urban aviation legends.

You are the one who brought up lawn mowing my friend and as usual completely exaggerated it's upside to try and prove your point.

BTW

I asked you some direct questions are you afraid to answer them?

Lets try again.

Skyhigh that's you.

1. Have you ever worked for a major/legacy airline?

2. Have you ever had an interview with a major/legacy airline?

3. If the answer to either of the above is no then why do you pretend to know so much about the process of getting hired at one and how do you know what it's like to work for one?

4. What neighborhood did you grow up in that had as a resident at least one example of every type airline pilot from extremely successful to flat ashed broke of which at least one worked for every airline that ever existed depending on your need for your agenda of the day?

Riddle me that?

 

Hoss......we might grow old waiting for those answers...hell any answers....I have asked him dozens of questions over the years with very very few ever answered.