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05-20-2021, 01:09 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Position: HC-130H Flight Examiner
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by WacoQCF
The COO said today that they do not expect to fly the international market until 1st or 2nd quarter of 2022.
Given than, 69 pilots+ are waiting with no aircraft qualification or training plan (at all) are still sitting at home waiting on training - estimated to happen 3rd quarter.
There is a major ruffle in the senior fleet of 717’s now being assigned to 2 day red eyes; and then the incoming 787 in mid 2022 that will cause some demand for new hiring as well as the further backlog of training events caused my shifting seniority preferences and/or seat locks.
In other news the COO stated that the 717 is expected to be in the fleet well past 2025.
Pilot hiring is not likely to come until late 2022 at the earliest.
Given than, 69 pilots+ are waiting with no aircraft qualification or training plan (at all) are still sitting at home waiting on training - estimated to happen 3rd quarter.
There is a major ruffle in the senior fleet of 717’s now being assigned to 2 day red eyes; and then the incoming 787 in mid 2022 that will cause some demand for new hiring as well as the further backlog of training events caused my shifting seniority preferences and/or seat locks.
In other news the COO stated that the 717 is expected to be in the fleet well past 2025.
Pilot hiring is not likely to come until late 2022 at the earliest.
05-21-2021, 05:30 AM
#12
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,948
Originally Posted by Hawaii808
he is mistaken, they are two day pairings with required rest on an outerisland. I think a lot of the 717 guys would prefer the continuous duty overnights though. The pairings are terrible.
05-21-2021, 06:56 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 92
Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
I see. Do most of the 717 guys live on Oahu? Are there commutable pairings from the other islands?
majority live on Oahu but it does have a few commuters. Know there’s a handful that come over from OGG same day.
05-21-2021, 08:00 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,302
Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
I’m not sure one person’s post on a hypothetical merger counts as a big rumor, besides that one individuals post is the only place I’ve ever heard of it, chances are probably slim and none in reality.
Although if AS was smart it wouldn't be a horrible idea to solidify their HI business with what's obviously the best brand recognition for that. The flip side is they'd probably have to dip their toes in international to justify the purchase price, and they're risk averse. They'd also have to keep the HAL brand, at least for international and some mainland-HI ops, and that might rub the SEA-centric culture wrong. But never say never.
05-23-2021, 03:24 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,617
Originally Posted by Hawaii808
he is mistaken, they are two day pairings with required rest on an outerisland. I think a lot of the 717 guys would prefer the continuous duty overnights though. The pairings are terrible.
05-23-2021, 10:34 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 122
Originally Posted by Hawaii808
I think around 60%
Not quite that high, the range looks to be about 42-53% of the pairings. But still a significant change. Off the top of my head, I can think of commuters from LIH, OGG, and ITO. The change may work out in their favor.
06-16-2021, 09:20 PM
#19
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Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 58
The latest news at Hawaiian:
1) We have gone full swing from fear of furlough to upgrading 30 Captains on the 330.
2) We have 30 new hire vacancies that need to be filled.
3) Those previously were hired into the pool who were dismissed, recently received letters stating they are still hired and should expect a class in the next several months.
4) 787 time frame has been moved up with the initial cadre going to training in Feb/Mar of 2022.
5) 717 sim is currently being installed in the training center completing the facility.
6) The atmosphere at Koapaka (HQ) is very positive and they appear to be prepping for growth.
It’s very refreshing to see all of the industry recovering so rapidly. 🍻
1) We have gone full swing from fear of furlough to upgrading 30 Captains on the 330.
2) We have 30 new hire vacancies that need to be filled.
3) Those previously were hired into the pool who were dismissed, recently received letters stating they are still hired and should expect a class in the next several months.
4) 787 time frame has been moved up with the initial cadre going to training in Feb/Mar of 2022.
5) 717 sim is currently being installed in the training center completing the facility.
6) The atmosphere at Koapaka (HQ) is very positive and they appear to be prepping for growth.
It’s very refreshing to see all of the industry recovering so rapidly. 🍻
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