Combining with Alaska Airlines for a Stronger
12-03-2023, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I would give AS some credit for having analyzed the regulatory landscape and for having a plan.
I doubt AS has any more politicians in their pocket than B6 does. Those little states back East have a lot of Senators for their size and a lot more representatives per square mile than the less population dense West.
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12-03-2023, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Assume they will be gone. Might take seven years, but they'll be gone.
Every AS plane is labelled "Proudly All Boeing"
Every AS plane is labelled "Proudly All Boeing"
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12-03-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Maybe but if they are operating two brands and we’re interested in Hawaiian, the strategic plan may be different. Maybe the 321 goes but wide key would have to be part of the scheme. “Fly West”. Need big air frames. Also Virgin was about warding off competition. This maybe a more about diversifying to look more like a Delta. I agree AAG probably did their homework on this but SWA gonna kick and scream. Not happy about this overall, but glad it was you guys and not someone else who’d bury the brand.
I'd assume Boeing widebodies, long term. but they might not rush to get rid of 330's for no good reason.
12-03-2023, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Widebodies will stay, otherwise what's the whole point? The AS announcement leaned heavily into the international aspect. I'm certain they don't intend to retreat back to SEA on this one (much as we joked about it).
I'd assume Boeing widebodies, long term.
I'd assume Boeing widebodies, long term.
12-03-2023, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Mmmm...
I doubt AS has any more politicians in their pocket than B6 does. Those little states back East have a lot of Senators for their size and a lot more representatives per square mile than the less population dense West.
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I doubt AS has any more politicians in their pocket than B6 does. Those little states back East have a lot of Senators for their size and a lot more representatives per square mile than the less population dense West.
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Also HAL isn't in the best financial shape, so it may be politically expedient to preserve the flying with angel investor. If HAL goes away, then it's just SWA.
12-03-2023, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Those widebodies will be brought up early and often in the seniority list integration.
12-03-2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by IFlyEm
Sadly, 321's would all be gone. The 717's would be replaced with Skywest or Horizon 175's. No idea what would happen to the 330's. I wouldn't be surprised to see American take those routes.
Scope prevents it under our current language. A JCBA would fight against that. Also, traffic requires bigger airplanes.
12-03-2023, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by IFlyEm
Won't matter. I don't see AS keeping widebodies around. That flying will be farmed off to American as a part of One World.
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