Eagle Air Med
04-01-2013, 10:39 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Eagle Air Med also operates under other names, and is actually "Scenic Aviation," our of Blanding, Utah. They've changed names to try to bolster their image, and are in business because of ties formed with the Navajo nation. They lost their certification at one point, and have wrecked a number of aircraft in the past. They've even managed to land aircraft out of fuel on mountainsides at least twice (Chief Pilot did that). It's a family-owned and run business. They have had a long history of 1-hour annual inspections and hundred hours, and unless things have changed drastically, are to be absolutely avoided.
Don't say you weren't warned.
Don't say you weren't warned.
EAM definitely has a cowboy past, but that attitude is long gone.
It is now owned by the Air Medical Resource Group based in Utah.
They have gone from running air ambulance in 172s 30 years ago to over 4 dozen aircraft based all over the country, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico- from Senecas to Learjets, as well as rotorcraft.
There was a CFIT with 3 fatalities in 2007, I can say with absolute certainty that the safety culture of this company has evolved light years since then. Not once in 3 years have I ever had a safety decision of mine questioned, even when I had turned down critical patient flights.
Maintenance is good- almost no MELs, and the king airs are well equipped. John Burke must have some kind of axe to grind (fired?) but obviously has not been around the company for some time.
I'm pretty anal with maintenance and safety stuff, and honestly I can't complain about this company. I have never been questioned about writing up/grounding an aircraft. Never.
In terms of medical crew "running the show", the purpose of this business is to provide the best patient care we can... if a patient needs to go to a certain hospital, that's where they need to go- unless the pilot feels he cannot get them there safely. Then you'll find a different hospital. Simple and clear communications with the med crews can determine patient outcomes- just like CRM between your copilot/FAs determines safety of flight. Being a good team player is a must.
PMs are welcome!
04-01-2013, 11:29 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by rv8builder
So much misinformation in this post.
EAM definitely has a cowboy past, but that attitude is long gone.
It is now owned by the Air Medical Resource Group based in Utah.
They have gone from running air ambulance in 172s 30 years ago to over 4 dozen aircraft based all over the country, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico- from Senecas to Learjets, as well as rotorcraft.
There was a CFIT with 3 fatalities in 2007, I can say with absolute certainty that the safety culture of this company has evolved light years since then. Not once in 3 years have I ever had a safety decision of mine questioned, even when I had turned down critical patient flights.
Maintenance is good- almost no MELs, and the king airs are well equipped. John Burke must have some kind of axe to grind (fired?) but obviously has not been around the company for some time.
I'm pretty anal with maintenance and safety stuff, and honestly I can't complain about this company. I have never been questioned about writing up/grounding an aircraft. Never.
In terms of medical crew "running the show", the purpose of this business is to provide the best patient care we can... if a patient needs to go to a certain hospital, that's where they need to go- unless the pilot feels he cannot get them there safely. Then you'll find a different hospital. Simple and clear communications with the med crews can determine patient outcomes- just like CRM between your copilot/FAs determines safety of flight. Being a good team player is a must.
PMs are welcome!
EAM definitely has a cowboy past, but that attitude is long gone.
It is now owned by the Air Medical Resource Group based in Utah.
They have gone from running air ambulance in 172s 30 years ago to over 4 dozen aircraft based all over the country, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico- from Senecas to Learjets, as well as rotorcraft.
There was a CFIT with 3 fatalities in 2007, I can say with absolute certainty that the safety culture of this company has evolved light years since then. Not once in 3 years have I ever had a safety decision of mine questioned, even when I had turned down critical patient flights.
Maintenance is good- almost no MELs, and the king airs are well equipped. John Burke must have some kind of axe to grind (fired?) but obviously has not been around the company for some time.
I'm pretty anal with maintenance and safety stuff, and honestly I can't complain about this company. I have never been questioned about writing up/grounding an aircraft. Never.
In terms of medical crew "running the show", the purpose of this business is to provide the best patient care we can... if a patient needs to go to a certain hospital, that's where they need to go- unless the pilot feels he cannot get them there safely. Then you'll find a different hospital. Simple and clear communications with the med crews can determine patient outcomes- just like CRM between your copilot/FAs determines safety of flight. Being a good team player is a must.
PMs are welcome!
04-01-2013, 12:59 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by FlyingChipmunk
Also a current EAM pilot and this is spot on!!
I wasn't here during the Cowboy Days, so I don't know how that was.
I've been doing this for over two years now and enjoy it, I just don't want to make a career out of doing EMS. Other than that it is a good place to make some money and help out the community at the same time.
04-02-2013, 01:58 PM
#24
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This is a completely legit company. It is run safely. As mentioned in the post above, there was one fatal crash which was due to very poor judgement and pilot error. That accident put into effect many more sound safety procedures and GPWS equipment. All the posts here saying that the company is unsafe could not be more wrong.
I have never been asked to fly a broken aircraft or questioned for writing up an aircraft. Unlike other air ambulance companies that are FREQUENTLY posting jobs on climbto350, AMRG (eagle air med, Gallup med flight, guardian flight) needs pilots due to company growth. Sure, some pilots are leaving for bigger and better things, but they aren't running away from a bad company.
Its good money and the flying is fun/ rewarding. My only complaints are the base locations and I would actually like to work more! I find myself with more free time (on call) than I've ever had in my life. Feel free to message me for more info.
I have never been asked to fly a broken aircraft or questioned for writing up an aircraft. Unlike other air ambulance companies that are FREQUENTLY posting jobs on climbto350, AMRG (eagle air med, Gallup med flight, guardian flight) needs pilots due to company growth. Sure, some pilots are leaving for bigger and better things, but they aren't running away from a bad company.
Its good money and the flying is fun/ rewarding. My only complaints are the base locations and I would actually like to work more! I find myself with more free time (on call) than I've ever had in my life. Feel free to message me for more info.
04-02-2013, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LJ JE
This is a completely legit company. It is run safely. As mentioned in the post above, there was one fatal crash which was due to very poor judgement and pilot error. That accident put into effect many more sound safety procedures and GPWS equipment. All the posts here saying that the company is unsafe could not be more wrong.
I have never been asked to fly a broken aircraft or questioned for writing up an aircraft. Unlike other air ambulance companies that are FREQUENTLY posting jobs on climbto350, AMRG (eagle air med, Gallup med flight, guardian flight) needs pilots due to company growth. Sure, some pilots are leaving for bigger and better things, but they aren't running away from a bad company.
Its good money and the flying is fun/ rewarding. My only complaints are the base locations and I would actually like to work more! I find myself with more free time (on call) than I've ever had in my life. Feel free to message me for more info.
I have never been asked to fly a broken aircraft or questioned for writing up an aircraft. Unlike other air ambulance companies that are FREQUENTLY posting jobs on climbto350, AMRG (eagle air med, Gallup med flight, guardian flight) needs pilots due to company growth. Sure, some pilots are leaving for bigger and better things, but they aren't running away from a bad company.
Its good money and the flying is fun/ rewarding. My only complaints are the base locations and I would actually like to work more! I find myself with more free time (on call) than I've ever had in my life. Feel free to message me for more info.
I'll reiterate what was already said..Good company, paycheck always shows up on time. Work as much as you want, and really very little duty time generally. They follow the rest rules etc...
My only real complaint I had working there was they don't necessarily have the most experienced guys in certain positions. And those guys tend to try to do everything from training to checkrides to scheduling etc..They should spread out the responsibility more, so they can be more effective at what they do. Because sometimes you are left scratching your head
04-02-2013, 05:23 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by LJ JE
Its good money and the flying is fun/ rewarding. My only complaints are the base locations and I would actually like to work more! I find myself with more free time (on call) than I've ever had in my life. Feel free to message me for more info.
04-02-2013, 06:05 PM
#28
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Posts: 124
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Other than the Midwest/Southeast/Hawaii, can anyone shed light on actual bases? I've googled it, but the links didn't work. Thanks!
Gallup, NM
Chinle, AZ
Kayenta, AZ
Alamosa, CO
Guardian Flight Wyoming:
Lander, WY
Gillette, WY
Sidney, MO (hasn't opened yet)
Hawaii Life Flight:
Honolulu
Lihue
Maui
Kona
Hilo
Waimea
Gallup Med Flight has lower hiring minimums and lower pay flying 414's in Gallup. They currently need to fill a number of pilot positions. That would be a good way to get a foot in the door with the company if you have lower than required minimums for Guardian. Once other spots open up in any of the bases above, you'd be able to bid.
There's also Guardian Flight Alaska which I believe does rotor/ fixed (including Lear) and Aeromed in Puerto Rico (rotor).
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