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Old 01-20-2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by swaayze
If you have further aspirations in the industry this is likely a bad idea.

If I woke up one day and said I wanted to be a pilot, I'd feel the same way
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Old 01-21-2010 | 05:36 AM
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If I woke up one day and said I wanted to be a pilot, I'd feel the same way
Not sure I follow that? My point was: if he wants to move to a legacy type carrier then he shouldn't change airlines to one at which he will not log PIC for many years. He'd likely be better off just moving or sticking it out at his current airline 'til he's got the requisite 1000+ turbine PIC. Then he could change for domicile reasons if he really wants to that badly.

If I'd stayed at my first airline I'd have been left seat much sooner and probably not still shy of the requirements of many carriers, some 18 years after I started in this industry and "made it" only to start over (repeatedly) after 9/11.

Take a longer view is all I'm saying. Meeting short term wants can be detrimental to your career.
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Old 01-21-2010 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by swaayze
Not sure I follow that? My point was: if he wants to move to a legacy type carrier then he shouldn't change airlines to one at which he will not log PIC for many years. He'd likely be better off just moving or sticking it out at his current airline 'til he's got the requisite 1000+ turbine PIC. Then he could change for domicile reasons if he really wants to that badly.

If I'd stayed at my first airline I'd have been left seat much sooner and probably not still shy of the requirements of many carriers, some 18 years after I started in this industry and "made it" only to start over (repeatedly) after 9/11.

Take a longer view is all I'm saying. Meeting short term wants can be detrimental to your career.
I appreciate the advice, however I'm not to terribly concerned about the PIC requirements right now. I live in Chicago but work for Piedmont. I was living in base at one point and QOL wasn't bad, had a line good days off, but was forced into another base and decided to move to Chicago which is where I will likely live for a while due to family reasons. I get to spend a whopping 5 to 6 nights a month at home commuting for reserve at a company that has no foreseeable future beyond today, so at this point in my life I would rather sit reserve in Chicago and enjoy what time I do have with loved ones, that is unless you know something about Eagle I don't. Or are you just one of the 15,000 pilots besides myself and every friend I have who applied for the job who is hopping that I don't get it so they can?
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Old 01-21-2010 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
I appreciate the advice, however I'm not to terribly concerned about the PIC requirements right now. I live in Chicago but work for Piedmont. I was living in base at one point and QOL wasn't bad, had a line good days off, but was forced into another base and decided to move to Chicago which is where I will likely live for a while due to family reasons. I get to spend a whopping 5 to 6 nights a month at home commuting for reserve at a company that has no foreseeable future beyond today, so at this point in my life I would rather sit reserve in Chicago and enjoy what time I do have with loved ones, that is unless you know something about Eagle I don't. Or are you just one of the 15,000 pilots besides myself and every friend I have who applied for the job who is hopping that I don't get it so they can?
Seems like you got your priorities in order, family first. One problem with eagle is that you may not get Chicago base immediately, eventually you will. San Juan atr and maybe a seat lock? Anyone else know if we still have a year long seat lock?
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Old 01-21-2010 | 07:40 AM
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What do you guys think about going to the interview at Eagle with electronic log books? What is the appropriate method of submitting it for review? Printing it out a certain way?
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Old 01-21-2010 | 07:52 AM
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What do you guys think about going to the interview at Eagle with electronic log books? What is the appropriate method of submitting it for review? Printing it out a certain way?
I can't speak for Eagle, but what I recommend if you want bring in an electronic logbook printout is to have it nicely bound at a place like FedEx Office or UPS store and make that your presentation logbook for the interviewer, but always bring your original paper logbook in case they want to see endorsements, sign-offs, etc. I heard the Eagle guys are sticklers when it comes to logbooks for correctness, etc. I've interviewed with a few regionals in my lifetime, most of them just took a glance at it, one airline didn't even look at it at all. The only interview I remember was for a Pt. 135 job, and the Asst. Chief Pilot really went through page-by-page, but it was mostly fun for him to see how many airport codes he knew
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Old 01-21-2010 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by IrishTiger
What do you guys think about going to the interview at Eagle with electronic log books? What is the appropriate method of submitting it for review? Printing it out a certain way?
No electronic copies, bring your actual book and make sure checkrides are flagged

of course this was two years ago so....
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Old 01-21-2010 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FL450
No electronic copies, bring your actual book and make sure checkrides are flagged

of course this was two years ago so....
Ugh I haven't kept a paper logbook for a year and a half now. Please tell me I don't need to go back and add every single flight in. Oh well.
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Old 01-21-2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by IrishTiger
Ugh I haven't kept a paper logbook for a year and a half now. Please tell me I don't need to go back and add every single flight in. Oh well.
Like i mentioned my info is a couple years old but some one mentioned earlier that Eagle is a stickler for log books. You could always have your electronic bound but this could be the determining factor as to how long you stay at your upcoming interview.

Short and sweet: Don't give them a reason to disqualify you, it may take some time to do the paper one but it'll be worth it if this is what you want
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Old 01-21-2010 | 08:45 AM
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I disagree with FL450. With the new electronic logbooks, you can print them in any format...i.e. jepps, etc and then have them bound. If you really wanted to shine you can actually buy the jepp paper and then print onto the jepp paper from your electronic logbook. If it anything, it will make you shine more with your nice clean electronic logbook print out. My two cents...
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