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07-23-2015, 06:14 AM

#11411

Gixxerguy

New Hire

Joined APC: Apr 2015

Posts: 7

Congrats to all headed to class!

07-23-2015, 07:39 AM

#11412

Crazy Canuck

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Joined APC: May 2012

Posts: 1,154

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatballsdriver

Phone interview tomorrow afternoon! 2 weeks after taking the test.
Can't do it now because ready to fly.
Wish me luck!

Awesome, congrats!

Took it exactly 1 month ago and nothing. Sent a follow up email and still nothing. Good luck, hopefully I'll be joining you in the interview room soon.

07-23-2015, 12:16 PM

#11413

captainv

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Joined APC: Nov 2008

Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot

Posts: 943

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon1011

Things are moving here at Atlas. On the latest vacancy bid the junior 747 captain now has a hire date of 26 April 2010. 5 years and four months to captain in the whale is pretty good time!

Congrats! But the whole 5 years to upgrade is only meaningful to guys in Talon's new hire class.

For some perspective, Talon is right about halfway up the entire seniority list. 51% of 1113 total pilots. Junior 767 captain (only 4 years to upgrade!) is at 57%. I've been here 3.75 years, right at 65% seniority and I'm 97 numbers junior to the most junior 767 captain. That's still a long way to go. The last guy on the list is 482 numbers away from the most junior 767 captain. How long do you think it'll take him to upgrade?

There has been enormous growth here in the last 5 years. Literally, half the airline has been hired since Talon started here.

Oh, and 767 captain pay will get you less than $110k/year at min guarantee (62 hours/month). something like $140k - $150k at 82 hrs/month, if my napkin math is correct.

07-23-2015, 01:25 PM

#11414

Talon1011

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Joined APC: Jul 2008

Position: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA

Posts: 324

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainv

All true, Captainv. I still take it as a marker of how things are changing though. If nothing else, the big plans of growth and market expansion rumbling around Purchase will never come to fruition unless they realize they need to offer a contract that makes Atlas a destination job rather than a good place to park until the call from United/Delta/American/UPS etc. happens. We are going into the silly season of negotiations in a far stronger position that I've ever seen in my civilian flying career.

07-24-2015, 05:54 PM

#11415

rmr1992

Whale whisperer

Joined APC: Apr 2013

Position: 744 Capt

Posts: 170

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTFover

Exactly! Now there has been a TON of hiring in the subsequent years, so those hired since will certainly not see a 747 left seat anywhere close to that fast! Luck and timing!

No disrespect, but I'm not sure thats an absolute certainty... The timing to upgrade depends on a lot of factors. If we continue to add airplanes to the current fleets and/or ever get that rumored new fleet they've been talking about the last few years, the whole dynamic changes. Not to mention the attrition the last few years has eaten up a bunch of that "TON" that was hired the last 5 years. Mix in seat locks with people who bypas one upgrade or the other and figuring timing IMO gets a little murkier. It's possible the time to upgrade stays the same, decreases or if things head south it could increase. Who knows?

07-25-2015, 05:26 AM

#11416

captainv

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Joined APC: Nov 2008

Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot

Posts: 943

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmr1992

Not to mention the attrition the last few years has eaten up a bunch of that "TON" that was hired the last 5 years.

As you say - who knows? - especially if a new fleet ever arrives. But it's an indisputable fact we've hired half the airline in 5 years (@ 550 pilots) How many have we lost to attrition? Give me an official number, not rumors.

07-25-2015, 09:11 PM

#11417

atpcliff

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Joined APC: Mar 2007

Position: Capt

Posts: 3,215

In the bid 2? months ago I was 150 #s from 747 capt. At 30 pilots retiring per year, I figured 5 more years to upgrade, maybe a bit less.

Now I'm 60 #s from upgrade. I was pretty surprised to find that I moved up 90 numbers in 2 months...what I thought would take 3 years...

10 more 747 capt bids out very soon is what we just heard...

07-25-2015, 10:37 PM

#11418

darrinf15e

On Reserve

Joined APC: Feb 2011

Position: 747 FO

Posts: 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by lear 31 pilot

Got the call this morning. In the August 10 class. have been in the pool since early May.

Same timeframe of being added to the pool (early May), but no class date offered as of yet. Hopefully, I hear something on Monday.

07-26-2015, 09:09 AM

#11419

Shibuya

Line Holder

Joined APC: Jul 2014

Position: 767

Posts: 84

Passed the written exam and don't have much else to add in regards to gouge. Its pretty accurate and the method that worked best for me was using my trusty old school Gleim ATP question book. For reference i used ACE The Tech Pilot Interview (Barstow) and JAA professional Pilot Studies (Croucher) for altimetry/aerodynamics, and internal docs at my company in regards to performance, NAT tracks, etc.

Thanks to everyone who posted useful info and keep up the good work!