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Hawaii50 06-22-2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdrick (Post 830632)
ACL (and others who have an opinion),

On the DAL addendum, "Have you ever been the subject of an evaluation board or been removed from flight status, downgraded, or failed any portion of flight training either civilian or military?"

I was prior military and received a SOD/Down, then continued training as normal after the standard paperwork. How would you answer: "yes" "no" or "yes" with clarification/explanation?

Thanks to all in advance,
Cubdrick

(It was Defensive BFM for those wondering.)

My opinion is yes with an explanation. It probably won't come up on the interview but if it does and you're honest, positive, and learned something, it'll probably actually help. Good luck!

dragon 06-22-2010 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830623)
I have a question to put out into the forum for the DAL pilots who might have some suggestions.

Is there any chance of a person being hired by DAL who was former military and pled guilty at a military court martial?

The person has been working at a 121 carrier, has 2500 PIC hours and 5000 total turbine hours, including roughly 1000 military heavy hours.

First thing that comes to mind is what type of court. General Special or Summary. If I remember my justice course correctly, an Officer can't have a summary but the other two carry a Federal Court felony conviction. If he was enlisted and received a summary, it's a misdemeanor.

I would think his only hope is to be honest and be able to demonstrate good integrity and work ethic since. However, I also think it'll be an uphill battle, too many folks without that type of stain right now.

KC10 FATboy 06-22-2010 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdrick (Post 830632)
ACL (and others who have an opinion),

On the DAL addendum, "Have you ever been the subject of an evaluation board or been removed from flight status, downgraded, or failed any portion of flight training either civilian or military?"

I was prior military and received a SOD/Down, then continued training as normal after the standard paperwork. How would you answer: "yes" "no" or "yes" with clarification/explanation?

Thanks to all in advance,
Cubdrick

(It was Defensive BFM for those wondering.)

When I was going through the hiring process, I marked yes to this question because I failed a navigation checkride during UPT. I explained what I failed, why I failed it, and that I've never failed a checkride since. It didn't come up in the interview and I was hired.

thrustreversers 06-22-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 830571)
Other airline means just that. Other, as in not Delta. DO not read in to the question.

So is an internship at pre-merger Northwest considered Delta or not? I'm wracking my brain here trying to figure this one out. What would you guys suggest? I'm only asking because I selected Delta and then gave a detailed explanation in the box below it. Now I'm second-guessing myself. Thanks!

forgot to bid 06-22-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 830502)
Seems as though they aren't very good at reading EKG's.

I'm a runner, and they jacked up my EKG as well. Got the leads backwards at first, didn't hook it up right, asked me if I'd ever had a heart attack (I was 25 at the time!), then said I needed to go see a specialist.

The specialist took one look at my EKG and said "there's nothing wrong with this- it looks like the leads were placed slightly off but that just shifts the picture... this is perfectly normal."

Derp derp derp...

There was a candidate and friend of mine in a class not long after yours that went to have his blood drawn at said institution of higher medicine. They missed the vein or whatever they're after. Tried again. Again. Again. Again. Again. Other arm. Again. Again. Try stabbing him and then moving the needle untl you hit the vein. Uh oh, he passed out. Well there must be something wrong with him, tell Delta he's a no go.

That got corrected pretty quick with a call from his doctor, who was outraged. I'd have to get more specifics on the story but thats how it was explained to me.

Now that said, my experience was straight forward (a few months later) minus my high Delta fever of course.

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 05:53 PM

Who knows, but when you did you internship, NWA was not DAL. So if it were me doing the app, I would put other airline, and then put NWA.

That is just being being factually honest, and I could be wrong.

acl65pilot 06-22-2010 05:55 PM

Hey they did my EKG wrong too. They freaked out, told me to settle down when I started to tell them that their leads were in the wrong place. The Dr came in and told them the same thing. Kind of humorous to say the least, but not too funny when your dream job relies upon them doing theirs.

forgot to bid 06-22-2010 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830665)
When I was going through the hiring process, I marked yes to this question because I failed a navigation checkride during UPT. I explained what I failed, why I failed it, and that I've never failed a checkride since. It didn't come up in the interview and I was hired.

I'd suspect a majority of pilots mark yes to this. I didn't pass my initial ride on the EMB-120 as an FO, actually I had an incomplete because I did a go-around at 1500' because I got off the LOC while OEI, while stupidly trying to do two jobs at once, and at another point I got close to exceeding 250 below 10,000', I didn't break, just got close. Turns out the next LCA said that incompletes weren't allowed anymore so it had to change to a fail. But I don't even know if my record shows fail or anything as it wasn't a type ride. I explained it, done, no problems. I figured they had the record there in front of them.

Looking back two other people had "incompletes" with me including one that didn't bust any mins or procedures but her LCA just wanted to see her fly again, the second LCA scoffed and just had her takeoff and land VFR and was done. And another who put the gear down a dot below GS while OEI when OEI is on GS. Oh well. Hell, a Captain friend failed his ride because he failed to notice his engine failed while in an idle descent, he noticed when the power came up. They said you should've noticed 30 seconds earlier, but its okay here's your pink slip but you did so well I'm going to mark you down as pass and you can continue to aircraft training. ?!??????? idiots. Same place that did engine failures during your steep turns and compounded different emergencies on top of each other during a checkride.

Check Essential 06-22-2010 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 830623)
I have a question to put out into the forum for the DAL pilots who might have some suggestions.

Is there any chance of a person being hired by DAL who was former military and pled guilty at a military court martial?

Depends what he pled guilty to.
If it was a crime of "moral turpitude" then I would say no way.

scambo1 06-22-2010 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 830681)
Depends what he pled guilty to.
If it was a crime of "moral turpitude" then I would say no way.

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