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Old 01-14-2011 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by indapit
Just because you go outside PTS standards, does not mean it has to be an automatic failure. You cannot make that kind of blanket statement for the entire PTS, it is situational.
Yes, it does not have to be an automatic failure - but it can be. It is all subjective. Anything situational is all subjective. That is my whole point and your statement just backs that up. It all depends on the examiner. Some examiners are business men and the nature of the business has a huge conflict of interest. They bust you they get to see more of your money and the second time around is usually not more than 20 minutes of their time.
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Old 01-19-2011 | 06:45 PM
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Could someone possibly help me with finding an email address at Pinnacle? I need to get a hold of someone I used to work with who could hopefully help with getting a job there. PM me if you could. Thanks
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Old 01-19-2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by indapit
Just because you go outside PTS standards, does not mean it has to be an automatic failure. You cannot make that kind of blanket statement for the entire PTS, it is situational.
PTS is PTS. They are "STANDARDS". If you go outside these standards, you SHOULD be busted (technically), however some examiners do not do so...
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Old 01-19-2011 | 07:44 PM
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I think the point is that just about any idiot can take a test 100 times and pass once. They want skills, and just as important they want someone they can trust. Which means being honest. Now if you fail checkrides all of the time, well you probably are in the wrong line of work. The key is to take a check ride failure as a learning experience and be honest about it. Tell them why you failed and what you learned from it.
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Old 01-19-2011 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
PTS is PTS. They are "STANDARDS". If you go outside these standards, you SHOULD be busted (technically), however some examiners do not do so...
If I recall correctly the PTS says 'consistently' exceeds standards.

However its been a while since I looked at one.
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Old 01-20-2011 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
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It doesn't matter what the FAA says. Most companies require the written within ____ of the class date....I think ususally 12 months. It is just like loggin PIC. What the FAA allows and what the airlines except are two different things. Many airlines require a number of requirements, sometimes odd ones. If you want a job, do what they say/require.

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Probably a stupid question, but do you also need to do this if you already hold an ATP?
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Old 01-25-2011 | 11:30 AM
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Is Pinnacle hiring?

How many? What base?

Care to speculate as to the fate of those at the bottom after SLI.

What is second year FO pay on that new TA?
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Old 01-25-2011 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmosdrvr
Is Pinnacle hiring?

How many? What base?

Care to speculate as to the fate of those at the bottom after SLI.

What is second year FO pay on that new TA?
yes

no clue, prob JFK, possibly DTW

hiring at the majors is ramping back up, i would think those on the bottom are safe unless something catastrophic happens

1st yr- 25.92 2nd- 33.71
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Old 01-26-2011 | 04:11 AM
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Pinnacle is in fact hiring. This new contract is going to be very good for our pilots, but there are so many unknowns at the moment that I would think long and hard before coming here. If I were looking at being hired right now, I would chose Colgan over Pinnacle. SLI is the reason.

SLI is the biggest unknown right now. As a new hire, you will end up at the bottom of any combined list, but that isn't what should worry you. The pay rates are pretty good on all of the planes now, but the jets still pay significantly more than the props (well for the 2 years until the Q400 catches up to the 200). Unless there are fences put in to the SLI, I believe that future vacancy's for the jets will go to people already on property. That may leave you on reserve for the next few years unless you voluntarily transfer to the Mesaba side and take the pay cut for flying a prop. Why not just start out on that side and avoid the seat lock that will come with changing airplanes?
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Old 01-26-2011 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SrfNFly227
Pinnacle is in fact hiring. This new contract is going to be very good for our pilots, but there are so many unknowns at the moment that I would think long and hard before coming here. If I were looking at being hired right now, I would chose Colgan over Pinnacle. SLI is the reason.

SLI is the biggest unknown right now. As a new hire, you will end up at the bottom of any combined list, but that isn't what should worry you. The pay rates are pretty good on all of the planes now, but the jets still pay significantly more than the props (well for the 2 years until the Q400 catches up to the 200). Unless there are fences put in to the SLI, I believe that future vacancy's for the jets will go to people already on property. That may leave you on reserve for the next few years unless you voluntarily transfer to the Mesaba side and take the pay cut for flying a prop. Why not just start out on that side and avoid the seat lock that will come with changing airplanes?
All newhires after July 1 2010 are stapled to the bottom DOH anyhow...so SLI really isnt a factor for them.
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