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Old 10-13-2006 | 12:59 PM
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Calcapt hit the nail right on the head!
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Old 10-13-2006 | 01:41 PM
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Direct and succinct Calcapt, great post!
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Old 10-13-2006 | 02:30 PM
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This thread has kinda gotten a little off topic as well as gone pretty far down a nice sloping hill.

I don't agree with many things that you've stated speedbird, but, to each his own.

Also don't agree with some things that have been stated by cal.

On a side note, despite race of any sort, i don't have pity nor respect for ANYONE who isn't willing to try their hardest. Freeloaders who believe that they're entitled to something is definately against many of my beliefs. Does affirmative action support laziness (ideally no, however it definately does allow it...as much as most government sponsored programs- i.e. wellfare)

So, if the question was does affirmative action bother me, honestly no. as Booya (lol) stated, your resume' won't say your race on it anyway, so getting to the table is going to be based on qualifications and recommendations (so everyones equal there). Leave say women and individuals named dawan' or rodgriguez.

So, if ya put your all into something (work your butt off like everyone else) you have just as much right as everyone else to be hired...and as far as i'd be concerned, just as little right also. Best of luck.
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Old 10-13-2006 | 05:59 PM
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For a long time a friend of mine never answered the self disclosure form. Just didn't think is was right. Then he realized he was 1/gazillionth native american, and listed himself as such. Started getting interview offers coming out his ears. Maybe it was coincidence, maybe not. But, I have started taking a long look at my family tree.
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Old 10-13-2006 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by calcapt
Wouldn't this then be discrimination against all other ethnicities not considered? If anti-discrimination is the goal, why consider ethnicity at all? Affirmative action is simply discrimination in disquise in my opinion. To answer your question, some airlines take this into account more than others. One of the large majors has a reputation for giving preferrential hiring treatment to minorities and females. While most of us would agree that having a pilot pool that represents a cross section of America as a good thing, the goal should be to hire the best pilots regardless of race or gender.
I disagree with this post totally. I live in an area wher epeople dont know about opportunities in aviation. Their dads dont own airplanes or are airline captains. So, because of that they are not exposed to the job market. SO, they need something to help expose them. The playing field is not level right now. So, how is it discrmination to help those get an equal hand that currently dont have that. How many non white male airlines pilots do you think there are? I'l tell you. 2% Thats terrible. The playing field is not equal so yes they need a hand up. Thats differant from a hand out. Nobody should want a hand out but a hand up is al they need.
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Old 10-13-2006 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
I disagree with this post totally. I live in an area wher epeople dont know about opportunities in aviation. Their dads dont own airplanes or are airline captains. So, because of that they are not exposed to the job market. SO, they need something to help expose them. The playing field is not level right now. So, how is it discrmination to help those get an equal hand that currently dont have that. How many non white male airlines pilots do you think there are? I'l tell you. 2% Thats terrible. The playing field is not equal so yes they need a hand up. Thats differant from a hand out. Nobody should want a hand out but a hand up is al they need.
There are cultural differences that tend to collect concentrations of peoples and perhaps some mixing of the pot is a good idea. However what we are discussing here effects safety.

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Old 10-14-2006 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
I disagree with this post totally. I live in an area wher epeople dont know about opportunities in aviation. Their dads dont own airplanes or are airline captains. So, because of that they are not exposed to the job market. SO, they need something to help expose them. The playing field is not level right now. So, how is it discrmination to help those get an equal hand that currently dont have that. How many non white male airlines pilots do you think there are? I'l tell you. 2% Thats terrible. The playing field is not equal so yes they need a hand up. Thats differant from a hand out. Nobody should want a hand out but a hand up is al they need.
My dad (or any blood relative) does not own an airplane. I am the first one in my family to touch the controls. I was born a poor white child. Does that mean I deserve "something to help expose" me? If so, i would love to have some folks forward my resume.

By the way, i doubt the NBA is staffed by players who are representiative of the US population... perhaps we should have more asians and hispanics on the teams. (oops, maybe I crossed a line here)
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Old 10-14-2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird34
blah blah blah
Just to satisfy my curiosity, why is it that every post you've made in this thread has been edited for spelling?
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Old 10-14-2006 | 10:53 AM
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I am not as smart as I sound but I know right from wrong!
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Old 10-14-2006 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird34
I am not as smart as I sound
Now there's a scary thought.
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