No idea whats next, but the latest movement shows that of the 8 New Hires, 7 going to HI after training. 3 furlough recalls too. 7 current FOs that bid out.

Job security aside... Eagle has better pay, better work rules, and $5k bonus from 2 years commitment. Mesa will rope you into a 2 year $12k training contract. Maybe you could negotiate out of that but idk...

Either be based in the 48 with more pay and a $5k check, or go to HI for less and you can't(won't) quit because you're in the hole $12k. You pick.

 

I can't post in the other forums yet.

Can anyone elaborate on how may have been hired? If I take a class date in another two weeks, will I be towards the end? I heard a number of 90 new pilots. How many have already been hired? I'm not sure being at the very end of this hiring wave will be a smart move.

Are people really being sent to Hawaii? The company made it sound if this is voluntary and most were staying in the US to staff the new CRJ 900s.

Thanks for your time.

 

Hi Prior121.

Mesa needs pilots, that simple. I doubt very seriously if in two weeks you will be toward the end. From what I'm hearing, hiring is projected to continue into the summer. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes Hawaii is our Junior base, so it's the simple physics of it. A fair number of those spots get filled by the most JR pilots, who in the most recent case happen to be new-hires.

You're correct, the new hires ARE for the purpose of staffing the new CRJ 900s, but indirectly, right? Because it isn't like they can violate the seniority list to do it. In the most recent case, the new-hires ARE going to HI (because it is what their seniority can hold) So... Before they can offer better bases to those new hires, they have to offer them to every other senior FO at Mesa first. Apparently 7 or so Hawaii guys wanted out. Therefore 7 vacancies opened in HI, and walla, they were filled by the new hires.

I suppose there is a fair chance you can avoid Hawaii IF enough of the current new hires heading to HI like it and want to stay, or you get lucky, and end up at the top of a big enough class. But I would prepare myself for a stint in HI if I were you just to be safe.

Also, if you do end up in HI, you will be able to bid out soon enough when your seniority can hold the mainland,. IAD will be your first stop out of HI because it is the second most JR place.

I'm a little surprised that the company is saying HI is voluntary? For Captains that don't want to downgrade maybe, but seniority is what it is, and HI be JR! It isn't that big of a base though, so it can be filled (turned over) quickly, that is in your favor.

Hope this helps.

 

8 total new hires have reached the rosters... I read on here that another class is this monday but no way to tell how many are supposed to be there OR how many will actually show up.

If you mean seniority, then yes you'll be at the bottom of the list even if you start Monday. All depends if they continue to hire after you. There's really no "for sure" answer except that the earlier you get a #, the more senior you are to the people after you.

Well.... a smart move compared to what? I don't know your background but if you've got a good job, then stay. If you don't like your job, then move on. Like I said, the sooner the better if you want seniority... but how far this "wave" goes is anyone's guess. Unfortunately that's your gamble.

To start, yes people are being sent to HI. Read my last post here. But the point I really, really want to you to get is to please not be naive when it comes to "what the company says". Regardless what they say or don't say, imply or whatever, they're not obligated to follow through whatsoever. Liars? Maybe, and in my experience frequently. But unless it's written down in a binding agreement they will do what they please. Including sending you wherever there is a vacancy. I hope you get what you want, I really do, but regardless what they say.... they wont back it up SO don't count on it.

To each their own, I won't blame anyone for coming here, but I would just like to hear someone who is applying answer "Why Mesa?" There are better regionals out there accepting applications. "Better" may be subjective but the facts are that our pay (FOs), benefits, contract (in general) is dated and sub-standard. I want that to change as much as the next guy, but today it is what it is. The old days of the Mesa quick upgrade are the old days. I don't see any redeeming factors here other than our crews.

 

Mesa has a 1 year training contract, my mistake.

 

To: CSD2000, Hello, I just saw your reply to my post concerning Mesa's hiring. Thanks for taking the time to reply. If you another minute or two, I got the e-mail the other day about contacting HR about setting up a time for this web interview. Can you tell me anything about it, how long does it last, any tech questions, any ATP questions, if you do fine on the interview, do they let you know right there, how you did? What about bases? do new hires get sent to HI. or do they get assigned to PHX. Any info you can send my way would be great! Have a great weekend.

 

Are you prior 121?

Also the Hawaii question had been answered a bunch....

 

Hay, New Guy 007, did you get a answer about the Mesa interview process?? Or does anyone know the process via camera interview.? Thank you.

 

Is seniority within a class based on DOB, or SSN?

 

in 2004 it was based on DOB in your class