Kalitta is hiring
03-05-2007, 10:43 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Velocipede
Get the most PIC time as fast as you can. Sitting in the right seat or sideways on a Whale won't help.
03-05-2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
i got the call to interview this friday. it doesnt sound like a bad deal if you like being on the road 17 consecutive days, then getting 13 off. but if you hate that lifestyle then thats torture. i dont know much about it but a lot of guys in my unit said STAY AWAY- their airplanes are extremely old (purchased from JAL and china) and not as well maintained, you might spend your crew rest time deadheading on an airplane. you fly on average 50 hours a month. they dont have CASS yet, and they dont have domiciles. some of the older guys in my unit also pointed out that kalitta had a LOT of scabs before they were unionized, so this could be a black mark on your resume if you get some old school guys at a future interview, although UPS seems to like kalitta guys.
03-05-2007, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Don't get caught by the FAA doing this or Kalitta could be the final step in your airline career. The FAA has consistently said that deadhead time is NOT rest. Yeah, there may be pressure to do so by some 121/135 carriers, but if you are caught you will be left high and dry by the company. Better to be terminated and explain to some one in an interview that you were terminated for refusing to break FARs than to have the black mark of a violation that follows forever.
Ask them for names and dates to support the allegations. I'm sure the details will be foggy. I have NEVER been asked to DH during a rest period. You may DH into a trip, in which case, half of the DH counts towards duty. Even that's pretty rare.
By the way, JAL and China Airlines (not Air China) maintained their airplanes exquisitely. When those airplanes show up, it is the closest thing to a new airplane that a lot of us will ever see.
The airplanes are maintained pretty well. Sure they're old, Boeing hasn't built a 74 Classsic for almost 20 years!
I think your counsel is maybe not so accurate.
03-05-2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by K4FE
The guys in your unit? Give me a break! How many actually work for KA?
Ask them for names and dates to support the allegations. I'm sure the details will be foggy. I have NEVER been asked to DH during a rest period. You may DH into a trip, in which case, half of the DH counts towards duty. Even that's pretty rare.
By the way, JAL and China Airlines (not Air China) maintained their airplanes exquisitely. When those airplanes show up, it is the closest thing to a new airplane that a lot of us will ever see.
The airplanes are maintained pretty well. Sure they're old, Boeing hasn't built a 74 Classsic for almost 20 years!
I think your counsel is maybe not so accurate.
Ask them for names and dates to support the allegations. I'm sure the details will be foggy. I have NEVER been asked to DH during a rest period. You may DH into a trip, in which case, half of the DH counts towards duty. Even that's pretty rare.
By the way, JAL and China Airlines (not Air China) maintained their airplanes exquisitely. When those airplanes show up, it is the closest thing to a new airplane that a lot of us will ever see.
The airplanes are maintained pretty well. Sure they're old, Boeing hasn't built a 74 Classsic for almost 20 years!
I think your counsel is maybe not so accurate.
03-05-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I know nothing about Kalitta and was responding to someone else in this thread. And again, the FAA has determined that DH time does NOT count for rest, so ALL DH time must be counted towards duty time, not half. Even this (counting half of DH time towards duty time), is illegal in the eyes of the FAA. Unless you mean counting the DH time as flight time, not rest time- that is a different subject.
The half time deals with calculating duty time for the Collective Bargaining Agreement legality. Actually, most of KA's operation is international, and there is no duty time limit for international operation under FAR 121 Supplemental rules.
I must apologize. My outburst was not directed at you. I get a little sensitive when people with little or no knowledge feel the need to denigrate a company by carrying tales or by propagating urban legends.
Please don't take offense.
My new motto: "Open keyboard....insert foot!"
03-06-2007, 06:31 AM
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Just wondering if anyone would happen to know with all the Pilot hiring taking place at Kalitta what the outlook for PFE s would be?
Have 5,000 C-5 time and all the “other” boxes checked I believe, Turbojet FE, A & P, FCC license, FAA medical, passport.
Would like to send a resume though not sure with the age 65 rules if that would be a waste of their time. Thanks
Have 5,000 C-5 time and all the “other” boxes checked I believe, Turbojet FE, A & P, FCC license, FAA medical, passport.
Would like to send a resume though not sure with the age 65 rules if that would be a waste of their time. Thanks
03-06-2007, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by K4FE
I absolutely agree on that subject.
The half time deals with calculating duty time for the Collective Bargaining Agreement legality. Actually, most of KA's operation is international, and there is no duty time limit for international operation under FAR 121 Supplemental rules.
I must apologize. My outburst was not directed at you. I get a little sensitive when people with little or no knowledge feel the need to denigrate a company by carrying tales or by propagating urban legends.
Please don't take offense. My new motto: "Open keyboard....insert foot!"
The half time deals with calculating duty time for the Collective Bargaining Agreement legality. Actually, most of KA's operation is international, and there is no duty time limit for international operation under FAR 121 Supplemental rules.
I must apologize. My outburst was not directed at you. I get a little sensitive when people with little or no knowledge feel the need to denigrate a company by carrying tales or by propagating urban legends.
Please don't take offense.
My new motto: "Open keyboard....insert foot!"Am I reading this wrong? I always thought this applied to all supplemental operations regardless of type of flying being done.
03-06-2007, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jettubby
Yes isn't that amazing. You could fly as an FO worldwide in a 747 for thousands of hours but you're just a schlub compared to a guy that has 2000 PIC in a B99. BS!! I don't think so.
03-06-2007, 07:43 AM
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There is no duty time limit for international supplemental operations in 3-seat aircraft. There are of course specific flight time limits. Rumor has it that the so thing will go away and back to pfe's, C5 you should be a shoo-in.
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03-06-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747
According to FAR 121.507 (2b) No pilot of an airplane that has a crew of three pilots may be on duty for more than 18 hours in any 24 consecutive hours.
Am I reading this wrong? I always thought this applied to all supplemental operations regardless of type of flying being done.
Am I reading this wrong? I always thought this applied to all supplemental operations regardless of type of flying being done.
121.483 deals with 2 pilots and one additional crewmember, that being the FE.
C5ABFE1: Get your stuff in. The age 65 thing will have minimal impact with the amount of hiring planned.
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