Future AK Service?
05-14-2020, 10:04 AM
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I haven't heard anything, rumor or otherwise. Horizon had a base in ANC for a couple years that petered out pretty quickly - they found that the Q400 isn't actually a great plane to operate up there in the manner that they wanted. I think it lasted three years from opening to closing, and the last two years were only ANC-FAI with a single flight to SCC each week. Too much cargo/checked bags, not enough people to balance out the loads. From what I've seen going from ANC-ENA or the reverse over the past couple years the loads were really light at about ~15 bodies on the flights that I took, but that may have simply been because I was choosing flights that fit my connection times and usually ended up being early morning or late night.
05-17-2020, 10:16 AM
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The ANC op failed because ALPA was able to prevent a maintenance base from opening up there. Every time a dash broke down, parts and mechanics would need to be ferried up from Seattle. It was doomed to fail before it even started because the Q doesn't like the cold. It also doesn't like the heat.
05-17-2020, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
The ANC op failed because ALPA was able to prevent a maintenance base from opening up there. Every time a dash broke down, parts and mechanics would need to be ferried up from Seattle. It was doomed to fail before it even started because the Q doesn't like the cold. It also doesn't like the heat.
05-17-2020, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ursus arctos
I hadn’t heard this before. So Alaska Airlines pilot union has something in the contract related to maintenance bases? Seems like scope protection of some kind. Do you know exactly how it’s written?
05-18-2020, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ursus arctos
I hadn’t heard this before. So Alaska Airlines pilot union has something in the contract related to maintenance bases? Seems like scope protection of some kind. Do you know exactly how it’s written?
05-21-2020, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
There is no scope protection, however AS pilots, mechanics, and ALPA in general will occasionally remind the company they will burn the place to the ground if they proceed on certain items...management decided it wasn't worth the disruption in Alaska (pilots and mx up there are a different breed) and did not go through with the mx base.
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