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Old 08-22-2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Splanky
And from my brother's best friend's cousin I heard . . .

I would not take a passengers word on this.

I had an incident a few years ago with faulty boots on a Navajo and really bad icing. Everyone was quick to judgement and played arm-chair quarterback with my decisions for some time. It gave me a new appreciation for 'waiting until the investigation is done' before condemning another pilot's decisions or actions.


I was just sharing a funny story that I heard about this flight, no judgment was going on. Perhaps you need to take things a little less seriously.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 08:45 AM
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The article says 76 pax onboard.... what seat config do they have up there?
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Old 08-23-2009 | 08:57 AM
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All but 2 of the Q4's at Horizon are 76 seat config...the only 2 that aren't came from China, 424 and 425QX.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Thats nothing... Try 76S, Oak Harbor, Washington..!
That runway is a two lane road in a cow pasture.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
That runway is a two lane road in a cow pasture.
I'd rather be back there flying Navajos and Caravans to and from SEA than at any 121. Too bad Harbor's a memory and a person can't make the same doing that as this.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sinsilvia666
Just for kicks... Herron / New Cumberland West Virginia (7G1)

Wildest place I ever took a single engine into !



Runway 4/22
Dimensions: 2030 x 20 ft. / 619 x 6 m
Surface: asphalt, in poor condition
RY 04/22 HAS EXTENSIVE CRACKING, GRASSING GROWING FULL LENGTH, ASPH UNEVEN.
Runway edge lights: non-standard
RY 04/22 HAS LGTS ON SE SIDE ONLY.
Runway edge markings: MARKINGS FADED.
RUNWAY 4 RUNWAY 22
Traffic pattern: left left
Markings: NSTD, in poor condition NSTD, in poor condition
Obstructions: 40 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway
RY 04 HAS +30 FT TREE AT THLD 48 FT LEFT. 40 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway, 90 ft. right of centerline
RY 22 HAS +40 FT TREES 15 FT FM THLD 90 FT RIGHT; 4 FT FENCE LINE 0 FT FM THLD 100-125 FT LEFT.

Additional Remarks
- PUBLIC ROAD CROSSES CENTER OF AIRFIELD; DO NOT TAXI ON ROAD, WING WILL NOT CLEAR STOP SIGN ON RD.
- FORMER RY 14/32 CLSD EXCP TAXIING & PARKING.
- RY 04 & 22 ENDS NOT VISIBLE FM EACH END. TRAFFIC ON RD. CROSSING RY NOT VISIBLE FM RY 4 END.
- RY 04/22 SLOPES UP FM E TO W, APRX 30 FT.
- DEER ON AND INVOF ARPT.
- ULTRALIGHT ACTIVITY.
- 30 FT DROP OFF AT EACH RY END.
20 Ft Wide =
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Old 08-23-2009 | 06:17 PM
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Heard the crew was on the second of back to back 11 hour days with several "breaks" intermixed throughout their day including a 2 hour break before their last flight at 11pm. It's interesting how a whole PILOT thread can go by and this has not been brought up once.

When will this massive elephant in the room finally break the whole house down?

As for runways... Up until only a couple of years ago Alaska was flying 737-200s into 3900' Dutch Harbor Alaska. Got the chance to jumpseat it once.. wow.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LineGrinder400
Heard the crew was on the second of back to back 11 hour days with several "breaks" intermixed throughout their day including a 2 hour break before their last flight at 11pm. It's interesting how a whole PILOT thread can go by and this has not been brought up once.

When will this massive elephant in the room finally break the whole house down?

As for runways... Up until only a couple of years ago Alaska was flying 737-200s into 3900' Dutch Harbor Alaska. Got the chance to jumpseat it once.. wow.
I hope this will be addressed in the incident briefings that are taking place.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 07:46 PM
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From what I know...

Aircraft N417QX had no problems identified and all systems operating normally.

Landed Runway 34 at BLI, Visual Approach backed up with RNAV 34 and calm winds/good visibiltiy.

Pilot Flying had bugs still set for the takeoff out of Seattle. Pilot Monitoring had bugs set for the correct landing weight.

Aircraft was flown roughly 25 kts over Vref on approach, as a result of not being reset from the take off previous.

Touched down significantly past the touchdown zone.

Aircraft could not be stopped with emergency breaking and full reverse.

I do not know anything further at this time...that includes what the crew's trip was like.
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Old 08-23-2009 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SurferLucas
All but 2 of the Q4's at Horizon are 76 seat config...the only 2 that aren't came from China, 424 and 425QX.
So ours just have more leg room cause they hold 74 pax?
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