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#35
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From: 36N15
Many more pilots will discover that their Regional gig is their final stop than will succeed to the next level. Aviation is a pyramid, not a table mesa.
#36
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Horizon is a great airline for regional airline standards. Good place to be
The thing about the commuters is that people go there to get PIC time and move on. It doesn't matter if salaries, benefits and QOL are good, if there is not quick upgrade, pilots are going to bash it. As someone here put it "career suicide"
take a look, most of the pilots doing the bashing are F/Os
The thing about the commuters is that people go there to get PIC time and move on. It doesn't matter if salaries, benefits and QOL are good, if there is not quick upgrade, pilots are going to bash it. As someone here put it "career suicide"
take a look, most of the pilots doing the bashing are F/Os
#37
CFIing is a stepping stone to get to regionals.
Regionals are a stepping stone to get to majors.
Majors are a stepping stone to get to UPS/FedEx.
UPS/FedEx are a stepping stone to get to Boeing Test/delivery pilot.
Boeing Test pilot is a stepping stone to get to Nasa test pilot.
I'm sure we could keep going on and find something else...
#38
That shouldn't make sense, but it does to me. At my company, I've flown with several check airmen who knew how to make sure you transfered the controls to do your approach brief, etc. But couldn't begin to talk themselves out of the FOM. No clue, besides what they were told to look for in check airmen training. I would hope that other carriers besides Alaska would be able to weed those sorts out. I would imagine it would be easier there though, with the close relationship they have.
#39
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: A320
P.S. I didn't realize that check airman were in a different class of people than us normal humans...
#40
They haven't been for about 15 years. They are kind of failing the litmus test for "stepping stone". More like "dead end". Not so much that you can never find another or better job, but in such a way that you're screwed out of earning traditional retirement due to spending so many more years than you were planning. Even McDonalds has career paths to become shift managers, store managers, etc. A true "stepping stone" job should be one without significant responsibilities where you only spend about 2 years at before moving on, IMO. It allows you to gain some experience and provide a service/work function, but not be so important that if you fail real bad things happen. This is what the regional industry would like to convince pilots that they are, but I think what they do is at least equal to what "major" airlines do, if not more challenging and worthy of compensation. Maybe that cancels out with the new aspect and not expecting to earn $300,000 the first year, but should be enough that it's considered a legit career. Until they start acting like a legit career I can't seriously think they are looking for quality pilots.
CFIing is a stepping stone to get to regionals.
Regionals are a stepping stone to get to majors.
Majors are a stepping stone to get to UPS/FedEx.
UPS/FedEx are a stepping stone to get to Boeing Test/delivery pilot.
Boeing Test pilot is a stepping stone to get to Nasa test pilot.
I'm sure we could keep going on and find something else...
CFIing is a stepping stone to get to regionals.
Regionals are a stepping stone to get to majors.
Majors are a stepping stone to get to UPS/FedEx.
UPS/FedEx are a stepping stone to get to Boeing Test/delivery pilot.
Boeing Test pilot is a stepping stone to get to Nasa test pilot.
I'm sure we could keep going on and find something else...
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