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Old 09-21-2015 | 01:52 PM
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where would the q400's go?
Hopefully the desert where they belong.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 01:57 PM
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The majority of the time it's a military guy coming in to get current and leaves to a Major. I don't think we are losing to many new hires to other regional cariers.
They are hiring people that should have never got the job to begin with. One recent FO had over 200 hours of iOE and they had to let them go
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Old 09-21-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet87
The majority of the time it's a military guy coming in to get current and leaves to a Major. I don't think we are losing to many new hires to other regional cariers.
I've been wondering why all the regionals are doing that. I mean, good for these mil guys who need to build a little currency before moving on to bigger and better but why hire someone who will almost certainly leave in 6-12 months? I'd say it is desperation to fill seats, but this was going on long before there was ever an applicant shortage right?
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Old 09-21-2015 | 08:22 PM
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I've been wondering why all the regionals are doing that. I mean, good for these mil guys who need to build a little currency before moving on to bigger and better but why hire someone who will almost certainly leave in 6-12 months? I'd say it is desperation to fill seats, but this was going on long before there was ever an applicant shortage right?
Personally I'd also say that it is rather underhanded on their part. There was a COmpass guy in my crashpad who had been out of the military for a year where he flew military King Air 350s... He gets hired at Compass, takes his checkride, does 2 days of IOE, then leaves to go to US Airways.
To me that is kinda dirty when you know up front that is the goal to get current and get out.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 08:32 PM
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There was a USAF 707 guy who was in my interview group who told us while we were waiting that he had already talked to recruiters at majors who said he just needed more time in the last six months. No doubt that the military has rigorous training and standards, but seems that showing you can function in the 121 world by making it through initial qual at a regional is not just desired by majors but encouraged.

Oh, and sure enough that 707 guy was off the seniority list no more than 6 months later.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
Personally I'd also say that it is rather underhanded on their part. There was a COmpass guy in my crashpad who had been out of the military for a year where he flew military King Air 350s... He gets hired at Compass, takes his checkride, does 2 days of IOE, then leaves to go to US Airways.
To me that is kinda dirty when you know up front that is the goal to get current and get out.
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There was a USAF 707 guy who was in my interview group who told us while we were waiting that he had already talked to recruiters at majors who said he just needed more time in the last six months. No doubt that the military has rigorous training and standards, but seems that showing you can function in the 121 world by making it through initial qual at a regional is not just desired by majors but encouraged.

Oh, and sure enough that 707 guy was off the seniority list no more than 6 months later.
Yeah, I've known people that have done similar things.

Dirty or underhanded? Nah, they're just playing the game that's been set up for them. If the majors want 121 currency, well... what other option do these people have? Besides, the more the regionals bleed, the quicker the regional airline idea becomes unsustainable. The quicker regionals are unsustainable, the more opportunity we have for bettering the profession as a whole.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
Yeah, I've known people that have done similar things.

Dirty or underhanded? Nah, they're just playing the game that's been set up for them. If the majors want 121 currency, well... what other option do these people have? Besides, the more the regionals bleed, the quicker the regional airline idea becomes unsustainable. The quicker regionals are unsustainable, the more opportunity we have for bettering the profession as a whole.
I know people who were furloughed when they were in class. One guy I know was furloughed 5 weeks after he started at Republic. These companies will drop you at a moments notice if it is in their best to do so - no reason why that concept should be one-sided.

I sure hope the regional model falls apart. The new round of major airline pilots coming from regionals should remember where they came from and reclaim scope so this doesn't happen again. I know some old CA's here at QX have been p***ed about me and other like-minded pilots saying this, but these E175's should be flown by Alaska. 1500 mile flight from SEA to MKE? That is almost twice as long as Alaska's average stage length. I wonder what Alaska pilots are making of all this given that their Hawaii runs and coast-to-coast flights are about the only routes that can't be outsourced. I sure hope this means scope is their #1 priority because looks to me like roughly 60% or more of their flying could be done cheaper on an E175.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
Personally I'd also say that it is rather underhanded on their part.
Why? The regionals, especially companies like Alaska and Horizon don't give a flying **** about you. This is the same company that terminated hundreds of rampers in a single day with zero notice. **** 'em. If and when my time comes to the majors I won't give them any notice. They don't deserve it. I hope I make them lose money and **** off a lot of customers.
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Let's stop calling them regional airlines and more appropriately contract airlines.
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Old 09-22-2015 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
Why? The regionals, especially companies like Alaska and Horizon don't give a flying **** about you. This is the same company that terminated hundreds of rampers in a single day with zero notice. **** 'em. If and when my time comes to the majors I won't give them any notice. They don't deserve it. I hope I make them lose money and **** off a lot of customers.
Exactly. I don't give two ****s about these poor desperate regionals.
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