What is going on with summer ops?
#21
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Seems like ATC is taking notice of Jblue management position that ATC is the root of all evils. Got a messed up clearance today. Potomac apprch asked "Why did u come from there?" Yup. I've heard others grumbling about getting passed up in JFK while OAL (DL) jets go through the takeoff turnstiles.
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-Bubs
#22
Here is my example... This is all on us... and maybe my fault too.
Waiting to push for 1 hr from gate 16. You name it we couldn't get it. Looking out my window it's a cluster out on 13L lined up the entire length. ( you see where I'm going with this) We ask for the bridge to be reconnected to reset that clock. Ops response was they didn't have anyone just go. 30min later I call for taxi... 25 min later and 100 yards we start heading back for the gate. Guess how long that took. In the end we timed out... No im not nor did go pass what my little white piece of paper says I'm allowed to.
Nobody listens to the captain anymore... Or maybe ever here. Everyone seems to know better than the guy with 20+ yrs of experience.
This was just one thing... One that sticks out. Every trip this summer has been like this.
Last trip I operated once in four days... Delayed, cancelled, timed out...Great pay but it's not sustainable.
Waiting to push for 1 hr from gate 16. You name it we couldn't get it. Looking out my window it's a cluster out on 13L lined up the entire length. ( you see where I'm going with this) We ask for the bridge to be reconnected to reset that clock. Ops response was they didn't have anyone just go. 30min later I call for taxi... 25 min later and 100 yards we start heading back for the gate. Guess how long that took. In the end we timed out... No im not nor did go pass what my little white piece of paper says I'm allowed to.
Nobody listens to the captain anymore... Or maybe ever here. Everyone seems to know better than the guy with 20+ yrs of experience.
This was just one thing... One that sticks out. Every trip this summer has been like this.
Last trip I operated once in four days... Delayed, cancelled, timed out...Great pay but it's not sustainable.
#23
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Here is my example... This is all on us... and maybe my fault too.
Waiting to push for 1 hr from gate 16. You name it we couldn't get it. Looking out my window it's a cluster out on 13L lined up the entire length. ( you see where I'm going with this) We ask for the bridge to be reconnected to reset that clock. Ops response was they didn't have anyone just go. 30min later I call for taxi... 25 min later and 100 yards we start heading back for the gate. Guess how long that took. In the end we timed out... No im not nor did go pass what my little white piece of paper says I'm allowed to.
Nobody listens to the captain anymore... Or maybe ever here. Everyone seems to know better than the guy with 20+ yrs of experience.
This was just one thing... One that sticks out. Every trip this summer has been like this.
Last trip I operated once in four days... Delayed, cancelled, timed out...Great pay but it's not sustainable.
Waiting to push for 1 hr from gate 16. You name it we couldn't get it. Looking out my window it's a cluster out on 13L lined up the entire length. ( you see where I'm going with this) We ask for the bridge to be reconnected to reset that clock. Ops response was they didn't have anyone just go. 30min later I call for taxi... 25 min later and 100 yards we start heading back for the gate. Guess how long that took. In the end we timed out... No im not nor did go pass what my little white piece of paper says I'm allowed to.
Nobody listens to the captain anymore... Or maybe ever here. Everyone seems to know better than the guy with 20+ yrs of experience.
This was just one thing... One that sticks out. Every trip this summer has been like this.
Last trip I operated once in four days... Delayed, cancelled, timed out...Great pay but it's not sustainable.
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#25
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That is productivity at its finest. I honestly find this operation hilarious. I read the chief pilot updates or the upper management emails and just laugh at how bad we run. The funniest part is how my momma always told me 'Stop looking for someone to blame and just fix the freaking problem.'
#26
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From: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
That is productivity at its finest. I honestly find this operation hilarious. I read the chief pilot updates or the upper management emails and just laugh at how bad we run. The funniest part is how my momma always told me 'Stop looking for someone to blame and just fix the freaking problem.'
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