Well there it is Bluebelles.
11-09-2017 | 04:15 PM
#23
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Isn't the real concern is the lack of a CBA in the next 12 months?
Id be pleasantly surprised if we had a TA before next Fall without picketing sessions and even a strike vote.
The email showed mild progress from the company, but nothing else.
The NC seems like they're all over this though.
Wanna go double or nothin PP? Jkg- just write that check
Id be pleasantly surprised if we had a TA before next Fall without picketing sessions and even a strike vote.
The email showed mild progress from the company, but nothing else.
The NC seems like they're all over this though.
Wanna go double or nothin PP? Jkg- just write that check
11-09-2017 | 06:53 PM
#24
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Joined: Dec 2009
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From: 1Durrty5
This is a distraction by management. Their desire to get us to agree to the cheapest CBA hasn't changed.
By making this statement directly to the pilot group they're attempting to create fear amongst us that we aren't worth as much as we truly are. They want to create uncertainty about our negotiation positions and foment doubt in our union leadership and our strategy.
Don't buy into it.
The company just demonstrated their fear of our unity. Fear of the same unity that voted 74% in favor of union representation over 3 years ago.
We work for a successful and profitable airline that can afford our reasonable proposals. They will in fact benefit greatly over the long term investing in a group of natural leaders who have been instrumental in building this airline into what it is today despite the lack of support from management and a "do more with less" attitude that prevails here.
The company felt the need to communicate directly with us for a reason. If negotiations were proceeding the way management wanted, they would have little reason to try talking directly to the pilot group.
There are many differences between Alaska's JCBA arbitration ruling and our full section 6 negotiations. Comparing their arbitration ruling with our negotiating situation ignores the reality of the industry as a whole and is fundamentally flawed.
As a pilot group we are gaining more leverage in negotiations with every step of the strategic plan that's implemented. Every billboard, every newspaper ad help strengthen our position. The next steps will only help us more. As mediation continues, the reasonableness of our positions will only help our cause in the eyes of the mediator and NMB. Additionally our professional attitudes and behavior at work reaffirms that.
Its been a long slog to get to this point and I'm as frustrated as anyone. But we are finally at a point where the situation only gets worse for the company if they don't want to play ball.
Now is the time to stick to the plan. We will not have a contract forced on us by an arbitrator. Ask P2P volunteers, your LEC reps, even the MEC and negotiating committee members questions. If you can't get involved, at least get informed and help inform others you fly with or meet at work.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. It's time for us to further strengthen our resolve, educate each other and make sure every link in that chain is as strong as the one next to it.
By making this statement directly to the pilot group they're attempting to create fear amongst us that we aren't worth as much as we truly are. They want to create uncertainty about our negotiation positions and foment doubt in our union leadership and our strategy.
Don't buy into it.
The company just demonstrated their fear of our unity. Fear of the same unity that voted 74% in favor of union representation over 3 years ago.
We work for a successful and profitable airline that can afford our reasonable proposals. They will in fact benefit greatly over the long term investing in a group of natural leaders who have been instrumental in building this airline into what it is today despite the lack of support from management and a "do more with less" attitude that prevails here.
The company felt the need to communicate directly with us for a reason. If negotiations were proceeding the way management wanted, they would have little reason to try talking directly to the pilot group.
There are many differences between Alaska's JCBA arbitration ruling and our full section 6 negotiations. Comparing their arbitration ruling with our negotiating situation ignores the reality of the industry as a whole and is fundamentally flawed.
As a pilot group we are gaining more leverage in negotiations with every step of the strategic plan that's implemented. Every billboard, every newspaper ad help strengthen our position. The next steps will only help us more. As mediation continues, the reasonableness of our positions will only help our cause in the eyes of the mediator and NMB. Additionally our professional attitudes and behavior at work reaffirms that.
Its been a long slog to get to this point and I'm as frustrated as anyone. But we are finally at a point where the situation only gets worse for the company if they don't want to play ball.
Now is the time to stick to the plan. We will not have a contract forced on us by an arbitrator. Ask P2P volunteers, your LEC reps, even the MEC and negotiating committee members questions. If you can't get involved, at least get informed and help inform others you fly with or meet at work.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. It's time for us to further strengthen our resolve, educate each other and make sure every link in that chain is as strong as the one next to it.
11-10-2017 | 03:41 AM
#26
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11-10-2017 | 04:32 AM
#27
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Joined: Oct 2012
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
This is a distraction by management. Their desire to get us to agree to the cheapest CBA hasn't changed.
By making this statement directly to the pilot group they're attempting to create fear amongst us that we aren't worth as much as we truly are. They want to create uncertainty about our negotiation positions and foment doubt in our union leadership and our strategy.
Don't buy into it.
The company just demonstrated their fear of our unity. Fear of the same unity that voted 74% in favor of union representation over 3 years ago.
We work for a successful and profitable airline that can afford our reasonable proposals. They will in fact benefit greatly over the long term investing in a group of natural leaders who have been instrumental in building this airline into what it is today despite the lack of support from management and a "do more with less" attitude that prevails here.
The company felt the need to communicate directly with us for a reason. If negotiations were proceeding the way management wanted, they would have little reason to try talking directly to the pilot group.
There are many differences between Alaska's JCBA arbitration ruling and our full section 6 negotiations. Comparing their arbitration ruling with our negotiating situation ignores the reality of the industry as a whole and is fundamentally flawed.
As a pilot group we are gaining more leverage in negotiations with every step of the strategic plan that's implemented. Every billboard, every newspaper ad help strengthen our position. The next steps will only help us more. As mediation continues, the reasonableness of our positions will only help our cause in the eyes of the mediator and NMB. Additionally our professional attitudes and behavior at work reaffirms that.
Its been a long slog to get to this point and I'm as frustrated as anyone. But we are finally at a point where the situation only gets worse for the company if they don't want to play ball.
Now is the time to stick to the plan. We will not have a contract forced on us by an arbitrator. Ask P2P volunteers, your LEC reps, even the MEC and negotiating committee members questions. If you can't get involved, at least get informed and help inform others you fly with or meet at work.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. It's time for us to further strengthen our resolve, educate each other and make sure every link in that chain is as strong as the one next to it.
By making this statement directly to the pilot group they're attempting to create fear amongst us that we aren't worth as much as we truly are. They want to create uncertainty about our negotiation positions and foment doubt in our union leadership and our strategy.
Don't buy into it.
The company just demonstrated their fear of our unity. Fear of the same unity that voted 74% in favor of union representation over 3 years ago.
We work for a successful and profitable airline that can afford our reasonable proposals. They will in fact benefit greatly over the long term investing in a group of natural leaders who have been instrumental in building this airline into what it is today despite the lack of support from management and a "do more with less" attitude that prevails here.
The company felt the need to communicate directly with us for a reason. If negotiations were proceeding the way management wanted, they would have little reason to try talking directly to the pilot group.
There are many differences between Alaska's JCBA arbitration ruling and our full section 6 negotiations. Comparing their arbitration ruling with our negotiating situation ignores the reality of the industry as a whole and is fundamentally flawed.
As a pilot group we are gaining more leverage in negotiations with every step of the strategic plan that's implemented. Every billboard, every newspaper ad help strengthen our position. The next steps will only help us more. As mediation continues, the reasonableness of our positions will only help our cause in the eyes of the mediator and NMB. Additionally our professional attitudes and behavior at work reaffirms that.
Its been a long slog to get to this point and I'm as frustrated as anyone. But we are finally at a point where the situation only gets worse for the company if they don't want to play ball.
Now is the time to stick to the plan. We will not have a contract forced on us by an arbitrator. Ask P2P volunteers, your LEC reps, even the MEC and negotiating committee members questions. If you can't get involved, at least get informed and help inform others you fly with or meet at work.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. It's time for us to further strengthen our resolve, educate each other and make sure every link in that chain is as strong as the one next to it.
