Picketing
#52
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Honest question...what are we “informing” the general public about (specifically) in our “plight.” Because I’m Vinnie Bagadonuts driving my sanitation truck for 75K a year and with a little research I find out the average CA at Jetblue makes....say 220-250K a year but is clamoring about being underpaid because his high net worth colleagues at brand X make an extra 30K a year. Am I inaccurate in this perception (given my masters degree in psychology)?
I grew up in the UAW. There’s a little more sympathy if you’re talking autoworkers vs white collar professionals in the top 3-5% of wage earners. Or, white collar school teachers making 40K.
So what’s the strategy then? Greedy JetBlue is mean to the pilots by not giving them a bigger piece of the profits?
Hey, give me more money but it’s really tough for the general population to sympathize with my desire for more cash. So what’s the play with the ads then?
I grew up in the UAW. There’s a little more sympathy if you’re talking autoworkers vs white collar professionals in the top 3-5% of wage earners. Or, white collar school teachers making 40K.
So what’s the strategy then? Greedy JetBlue is mean to the pilots by not giving them a bigger piece of the profits?
Hey, give me more money but it’s really tough for the general population to sympathize with my desire for more cash. So what’s the play with the ads then?
#53
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From: MD-88, Right.
Honest question...what are we “informing” the general public about (specifically) in our “plight.” Because I’m Vinnie Bagadonuts driving my sanitation truck for 75K a year and with a little research I find out the average CA at Jetblue makes....say 220-250K a year but is clamoring about being underpaid because his high net worth colleagues at brand X make an extra 30K a year. Am I inaccurate in this perception (given my masters degree in psychology)?
I grew up in the UAW. There’s a little more sympathy if you’re talking autoworkers vs white collar professionals in the top 3-5% of wage earners. Or, white collar school teachers making 40K.
So what’s the strategy then? Greedy JetBlue is mean to the pilots by not giving them a bigger piece of the profits?
Hey, give me more money but it’s really tough for the general population to sympathize with my desire for more cash. So what’s the play with the ads then?
I grew up in the UAW. There’s a little more sympathy if you’re talking autoworkers vs white collar professionals in the top 3-5% of wage earners. Or, white collar school teachers making 40K.
So what’s the strategy then? Greedy JetBlue is mean to the pilots by not giving them a bigger piece of the profits?
Hey, give me more money but it’s really tough for the general population to sympathize with my desire for more cash. So what’s the play with the ads then?
Point is Vinnie Bagadonuts is doing very well for himself as a DSNY union represented employee and makes a killing more than 75k a year if they want to after they gain just one hint of seniority in their respective garages. Their premium pay and holiday pay blow a number of airlines’ compensation standards for flight ops employees quite easily out of the water. Including the pennies we at JetBlue are currently provided.
Otherwise, the general population doesn’t really care why we are picketing. The optics alone are powerful enough. If you don’t want to take part in acquiring what those who have came before me and those who will come after me deserve as professionals then that’s your prerogative but I hope you won’t attempt to still seek an answer of what good does picketing do in the eyes of the general population. Consider, perhaps for just a mere moment, that they are not the primary targeted audience. Good luck and be safe! In Unity...
#54
The REAL Bluedriver
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From: Airbus Capt
So...only because I know and am great friends with a number of DSNY gents - they do very well for themselves, are union and understand the same very basic premise that they serve a vital role in employing their employers resources that provides a service to over 8.5 million customers annually. Mind you, they cover their respective areas multiple times a week while we at JetBlue aid in the transport of nearly 14 million passengers in just the twelve months ahead of Spring of 2017.
Point is Vinnie Bagadonuts is doing very well for himself as a DSNY union represented employee and makes a killing more than 75k a year if they want to after they gain just one hint of seniority in their respective garages. Their premium pay and holiday pay blow a number of airlines’ compensation standards for flight ops employees quite easily out of the water. Including the pennies we at JetBlue are currently provided.
Otherwise, the general population doesn’t really care why we are picketing. The optics alone are powerful enough. If you don’t want to take part in acquiring what those who have came before me and those who will come after me deserve as professionals then that’s your prerogative but I hope you won’t attempt to still seek an answer of what good does picketing do in the eyes of the general population. Consider, perhaps for just a mere moment, that they are not the primary targeted audience. Good luck and be safe! In Unity...
Point is Vinnie Bagadonuts is doing very well for himself as a DSNY union represented employee and makes a killing more than 75k a year if they want to after they gain just one hint of seniority in their respective garages. Their premium pay and holiday pay blow a number of airlines’ compensation standards for flight ops employees quite easily out of the water. Including the pennies we at JetBlue are currently provided.
Otherwise, the general population doesn’t really care why we are picketing. The optics alone are powerful enough. If you don’t want to take part in acquiring what those who have came before me and those who will come after me deserve as professionals then that’s your prerogative but I hope you won’t attempt to still seek an answer of what good does picketing do in the eyes of the general population. Consider, perhaps for just a mere moment, that they are not the primary targeted audience. Good luck and be safe! In Unity...
#56
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So...only because I know and am great friends with a number of DSNY gents - they do very well for themselves, are union and understand the same very basic premise that they serve a vital role in employing their employers resources that provides a service to over 8.5 million customers annually. Mind you, they cover their respective areas multiple times a week while we at JetBlue aid in the transport of nearly 14 million passengers in just the twelve months ahead of Spring of 2017.
Point is Vinnie Bagadonuts is doing very well for himself as a DSNY union represented employee and makes a killing more than 75k a year if they want to after they gain just one hint of seniority in their respective garages. Their premium pay and holiday pay blow a number of airlines’ compensation standards for flight ops employees quite easily out of the water. Including the pennies we at JetBlue are currently provided.
Otherwise, the general population doesn’t really care why we are picketing. The optics alone are powerful enough. If you don’t want to take part in acquiring what those who have came before me and those who will come after me deserve as professionals then that’s your prerogative but I hope you won’t attempt to still seek an answer of what good does picketing do in the eyes of the general population. Consider, perhaps for just a mere moment, that they are not the primary targeted audience. Good luck and be safe! In Unity...
Point is Vinnie Bagadonuts is doing very well for himself as a DSNY union represented employee and makes a killing more than 75k a year if they want to after they gain just one hint of seniority in their respective garages. Their premium pay and holiday pay blow a number of airlines’ compensation standards for flight ops employees quite easily out of the water. Including the pennies we at JetBlue are currently provided.
Otherwise, the general population doesn’t really care why we are picketing. The optics alone are powerful enough. If you don’t want to take part in acquiring what those who have came before me and those who will come after me deserve as professionals then that’s your prerogative but I hope you won’t attempt to still seek an answer of what good does picketing do in the eyes of the general population. Consider, perhaps for just a mere moment, that they are not the primary targeted audience. Good luck and be safe! In Unity...
#57
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Yes. To you. Your interpretation. It's incorrect. The number of open items in a negotiation is not proportional to the time that it takes to close those items.
Preeeeeeeeetty sure that a union's leadership doesn't want you or anyone else posting stuff on message boards for the company to see and interpret for their own use. Recommend that you don't do it anymore.
Preeeeeeeeetty sure that a union's leadership doesn't want you or anyone else posting stuff on message boards for the company to see and interpret for their own use. Recommend that you don't do it anymore.
#58
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From: B6
Yes. To you. Your interpretation. It's incorrect. The number of open items in a negotiation is not proportional to the time that it takes to close those items.
Preeeeeeeeetty sure that a union's leadership doesn't want you or anyone else posting stuff on message boards for the company to see and interpret for their own use. Recommend that you don't do it anymore.
Preeeeeeeeetty sure that a union's leadership doesn't want you or anyone else posting stuff on message boards for the company to see and interpret for their own use. Recommend that you don't do it anymore.
#59
The REAL Bluedriver
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From: Airbus Capt
And strangely, your posted response seems nonsensical relative to the post you quote, again.
#60
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Yes. To you. Your interpretation. It's incorrect. The number of open items in a negotiation is not proportional to the time that it takes to close those items.
Preeeeeeeeetty sure that a union's leadership doesn't want you or anyone else posting stuff on message boards for the company to see and interpret for their own use. Recommend that you don't do it anymore.
Preeeeeeeeetty sure that a union's leadership doesn't want you or anyone else posting stuff on message boards for the company to see and interpret for their own use. Recommend that you don't do it anymore.
Hyperboy, incorrect.
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