Picketing
12-14-2017, 04:40 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer
Sounded like we're pretty damn close to me.
But, that's not what was said. If you were on the call then you know you were told specific things. One of those was to NOT inflect your own opinion on what is going on. If you are a p2p guy then you are going a disservice to your union.
12-14-2017, 04:43 AM
#62
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
I am not saying you are right or wrong but you are inaccurate with your statements. Please call a union rep, talk to a P2P from last nights call or go to a meeting. 21 out of 31.
Did you guys even listen to Pat or Jeff?
12-14-2017, 05:02 AM
#64
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Didn’t the union say that most of the open sections are almost done?
It's all about that remaining number (and language for rules). They can drag the negotiations out for years on just a few numbers!
It's not done until it's done and there is NO way to tell when that will happen based on open sections remaining or amount of words complete in the sections or stuff.
If the language AND the plug-and-play numbers aren't agreed to, there is NO way to make an accurate judgement of how long this will take.
12-14-2017, 05:07 AM
#65
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
If the language AND the plug-and-play numbers aren't agreed to, there is NO way to make an accurate judgement of how long this will take.
12-14-2017, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rooinek
Where on the spectrum are the plug-and-play numbers? Slightly below the legacies?
And why would they be below? Same planes. Same routes.
Why not same pay?
12-14-2017, 05:54 AM
#68
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If any of you guys who talk with MEC officers, or who are on the P2P committee and listened in on the last few calls, especially the last one, and don't have a feeling that we may be on the cusp of getting a AIP, then you believe what you WANT to believe, not what is actually going on. Some of you guys revel in your misery and hatred for this company and any positive momentum is counter-productive towards your agenda.
Does it mean we're going to have an agreement in the end of January? Of course not. But is it possible based on trends and momentum? Absolutely.
Does it mean we're going to have an agreement in the end of January? Of course not. But is it possible based on trends and momentum? Absolutely.
12-14-2017, 06:04 AM
#69
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
If any of you guys who talk with MEC officers, or who are on the P2P committee and listened in on the last few calls, especially the last one, and don't have a feeling that we may be on the cusp of getting a AIP, then you believe what you WANT to believe, not what is actually going on. Some of you guys revel in your misery and hatred for this company and any positive momentum is counter-productive towards your agenda.
Does it mean we're going to have an agreement in the end of January? Of course not. But is it possible based on trends and momentum? Absolutely.
Does it mean we're going to have an agreement in the end of January? Of course not. But is it possible based on trends and momentum? Absolutely.
Can you seriously not understand that exact position for some of us?
12-14-2017, 06:43 AM
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FACTS, FEEDBACK, and UNITY. It’s right there on the card. No where does it say OPINIONS. I’m just as guilty as the next guy so I’m not pointing any fingers on here. But it was specifically requested on the last call to leave your opinions off the internet if you’re a P2P volunteer.
Fact: We actually have 20 of 31 sections TA’d not 21.
Fact: Two more mediated sessions in January
Fact: Picketing will take place on January 31st
Fact: We actually have 20 of 31 sections TA’d not 21.
Fact: Two more mediated sessions in January
Fact: Picketing will take place on January 31st
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