Questions about JB
#11
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#12
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Questions about JB
Great post. Every word of this post is also true for me. I was reasonably happy here at one point, now, um no....
This is a great honest opinion from a guy that has not been a negative burn-it-down guy.
I've noticed Southerner, LOWpayman and Hypergirl have been awfully quiet lately. Finally.
This is a great honest opinion from a guy that has not been a negative burn-it-down guy.
I've noticed Southerner, LOWpayman and Hypergirl have been awfully quiet lately. Finally.
I'm only quiet because there's no point in engaging with your stupidity. You're a broken record. I see that you used your real name on JBLU Pilots, and you're not as much of a jackwagon over there...wonder why?
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#13
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There is a strike coming here. Mark my words.
The reality of what jetblew thinks we are worth is really starting to sink in, especially after this year's approximately 10% YOY PAY CUT. Profit sharing way down. Nothing but a new $hit sandwich every month.
They will not give us market rate unless we strike. It is obvious. Unfortunately I think we have a couple more years of getting jerked around before this reality sinks in with some of the optimists around here.
The reality of what jetblew thinks we are worth is really starting to sink in, especially after this year's approximately 10% YOY PAY CUT. Profit sharing way down. Nothing but a new $hit sandwich every month.
They will not give us market rate unless we strike. It is obvious. Unfortunately I think we have a couple more years of getting jerked around before this reality sinks in with some of the optimists around here.
#14
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There is a strike coming here. Mark my words.
The reality of what jetblew thinks we are worth is really starting to sink in, especially after this year's approximately 10% YOY PAY CUT. Profit sharing way down. Nothing but a new $hit sandwich every month.
They will not give us market rate unless we strike. It is obvious. Unfortunately I think we have a couple more years of getting jerked around before this reality sinks in with some of the optimists around here.
The reality of what jetblew thinks we are worth is really starting to sink in, especially after this year's approximately 10% YOY PAY CUT. Profit sharing way down. Nothing but a new $hit sandwich every month.
They will not give us market rate unless we strike. It is obvious. Unfortunately I think we have a couple more years of getting jerked around before this reality sinks in with some of the optimists around here.
New hires........can you afford our industry bottom first year pay and then be on the street for an unknown period of time?
#15
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You're quiet because this place gets worse every week, and you're realizing that everyone else is finally coming to that realization.
#16
Wheres the B6 defense South? Lets hear it...
#17
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I’d say JFK is most junior on the bus. There are folks in JFK with a line at about the 11 month mark. BOS is a few months behind at probably 14 months to a line. I would not go to JFK just to get the line a few months earlier though. In contrast I have a buddy on the 190 in BOS who has a line in February right at the year mark.
As for the airline itself here is my $.02 with about 18 months on property...
-if you have other, better options then take them. If you are stuck at a crappy place and JB is a little less crappy then by all means come on over. It isn’t a bad place to wait for a better option. Be prepared though $53/hr first year and you will not break guarantee on reserve. Four people from my indoc class have already moved on and most of the junior FOs I talk to have their apps out.
-I do think that we will have to strike or at least vote to strike before anything gets done. My bigger fear is that by the time that happens any good will that was left in the pilot group will be long gone and never come back. I think that the company really believes they can screw us around all they want and when the CBA finally happens that they can snap their fingers and everyone will be a big happy family again. That is not going to happen in my opinion because people are becoming very bitter.
-I think if we do strike it won’t last a week. The company just can’t afford to let that happen.
-I was at a crappy regional for a few months before coming here and this place seems to be ran by the same idiots that were running that place. We had a winter storm on 12/23 that was predicted in every weather model for a week but nobody thought to call in people to man the ice trucks. We were dead in the water that morning. This is just another day at JB.
-most of the pilot group are great people. I have yet to fly with a single person I wouldn’t want to fly with again. Although I did fly with a captain who said he thought he was already paid enough. Not a bad guy but he is at the top of the food chain and has lost sight of what is going on in the real world.
As for the airline itself here is my $.02 with about 18 months on property...
-if you have other, better options then take them. If you are stuck at a crappy place and JB is a little less crappy then by all means come on over. It isn’t a bad place to wait for a better option. Be prepared though $53/hr first year and you will not break guarantee on reserve. Four people from my indoc class have already moved on and most of the junior FOs I talk to have their apps out.
-I do think that we will have to strike or at least vote to strike before anything gets done. My bigger fear is that by the time that happens any good will that was left in the pilot group will be long gone and never come back. I think that the company really believes they can screw us around all they want and when the CBA finally happens that they can snap their fingers and everyone will be a big happy family again. That is not going to happen in my opinion because people are becoming very bitter.
-I think if we do strike it won’t last a week. The company just can’t afford to let that happen.
-I was at a crappy regional for a few months before coming here and this place seems to be ran by the same idiots that were running that place. We had a winter storm on 12/23 that was predicted in every weather model for a week but nobody thought to call in people to man the ice trucks. We were dead in the water that morning. This is just another day at JB.
-most of the pilot group are great people. I have yet to fly with a single person I wouldn’t want to fly with again. Although I did fly with a captain who said he thought he was already paid enough. Not a bad guy but he is at the top of the food chain and has lost sight of what is going on in the real world.
#18
Choice of equipment
Is there any bid process for a/c or is everyone assigned what the company needs during indoc? Does anyone privy to the information know what a typical class drop looks like? Or better yet, what the actual last few have looked like?
#19
Questions about JB
Your seniority is based on age in your class. So you bid on what is available based on that on day 1. If JFK bus is the only thing they need, that’s where everyone is going. Lately it’s been a few 190 slots in BOS and JFK but mostly bus JFK.
#20
Appreciate the intel. What does a typical junior line look like on the bus and 190? Days off/length of trips/legs per day, etc.
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