Questions about JB
02-02-2018, 06:51 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by captsurf
I’m 5 months on the line, JFK Bus. So far I’ve gotten at least 2 or 3 weekend a month off on reserve. Based on the system bid that goes into effect in June, I’ll still be about 20-25 #s away from holding a line if all is the same as last summers bid awards. Likely by Aug, which puts it right at or before the 1yr mark on reserve.
02-02-2018, 08:35 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Looking at the line awards for people in their first 2+ years on property, airbus schedules look brutal. I guess you all have more open time to swap and try to make it better, but that looks terrible. I would hate to be a junior line holder on the bus here...looks worse than our reserve.
Agreed. I live local to JFK so I’ll likely just bid reserve with weekends off until I can hold something better. Although even with a horrible line with 10hr-3days, Scheduling flexibility gets better tenfold when holding a line.
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02-02-2018, 10:08 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Looking at the line awards for people in their first 2+ years on property, airbus schedules look brutal. I guess you all have more open time to swap and try to make it better, but that looks terrible. I would hate to be a junior line holder on the bus here...looks worse than our reserve.
02-14-2018, 02:22 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Does the advice to “Start out on the 190, and move over to the Bus when you can hold a line” still hold? IOW, does either airframe offer a better QoL than the other?
02-14-2018, 02:28 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
Not unless you can only live in base on the 190. That thing blows.
02-14-2018, 02:53 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Does the advice to “Start out on the 190, and move over to the Bus when you can hold a line” still hold? IOW, does either airframe offer a better QoL than the other?
02-14-2018, 03:40 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Comparing my days off to bus guys days off, I’d beg to differ. Ive extensively compared my schedules and pay to guys in my pad with similar seniority, and I came out ahead. Significantly when they had been on reserve. I was on reserve for a few months...they were on reserve for 15 months. I bid commutable lines almost right away...they had no visibility on their schedule until the day prior since they were on reserve. When I was on reserve I had lots of long call and PRLs...they didn’t. At the 2 year mark it made sense schedule/money wise to move. But most of my trips are 1-2 legs a day on the 190, commutable when I bid for it, and my productivity more than makes up for the 10% pay differential. Ymmv based on reserve times. Some guys hired 6 months after me on the 190 had a long reserve sit.
02-14-2018, 05:14 PM
#59
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Bid what you can make the most money on for the QOL. I'd suggest the 717.
717 CA NYC pays $219 first year versus 320 JB $53.
Even if you don't take the first upgrade, 717 FO 2nd year is $118 vs 320 $94 (plus 16% DC and more profit sharing than a captain makes here).
717 CA NYC pays $219 first year versus 320 JB $53.
Even if you don't take the first upgrade, 717 FO 2nd year is $118 vs 320 $94 (plus 16% DC and more profit sharing than a captain makes here).
02-14-2018, 05:21 PM
#60
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
Bid what you can make the most money on for the QOL. I'd suggest the 717.
717 CA NYC pays $219 first year versus 320 JB $53.
Even if you don't take the first upgrade, 717 FO 2nd year is $118 vs 320 $94 (plus 16% DC and more profit sharing than a captain makes here).
717 CA NYC pays $219 first year versus 320 JB $53.
Even if you don't take the first upgrade, 717 FO 2nd year is $118 vs 320 $94 (plus 16% DC and more profit sharing than a captain makes here).
Oh wait thats Delta- B6 has NOTHING to attract pilots.
Well...there is the culture.
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