Questions about JB
02-02-2018 | 06:51 AM
#51
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I’m 5 months on the line, JFK Bus. So far I’ve gotten at least 2 or 3 weekend a month off on reserve. Based on the system bid that goes into effect in June, I’ll still be about 20-25 #s away from holding a line if all is the same as last summers bid awards. Likely by Aug, which puts it right at or before the 1yr mark on reserve.
02-02-2018 | 08:35 AM
#52
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Looking at the line awards for people in their first 2+ years on property, airbus schedules look brutal. I guess you all have more open time to swap and try to make it better, but that looks terrible. I would hate to be a junior line holder on the bus here...looks worse than our reserve.
Agreed. I live local to JFK so I’ll likely just bid reserve with weekends off until I can hold something better. Although even with a horrible line with 10hr-3days, Scheduling flexibility gets better tenfold when holding a line.
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02-02-2018 | 10:08 AM
#53
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Looking at the line awards for people in their first 2+ years on property, airbus schedules look brutal. I guess you all have more open time to swap and try to make it better, but that looks terrible. I would hate to be a junior line holder on the bus here...looks worse than our reserve.
02-14-2018 | 02:22 PM
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02-14-2018 | 02:28 PM
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Comparing my days off to bus guys days off, I’d beg to differ. Ive extensively compared my schedules and pay to guys in my pad with similar seniority, and I came out ahead. Significantly when they had been on reserve. I was on reserve for a few months...they were on reserve for 15 months. I bid commutable lines almost right away...they had no visibility on their schedule until the day prior since they were on reserve. When I was on reserve I had lots of long call and PRLs...they didn’t. At the 2 year mark it made sense schedule/money wise to move. But most of my trips are 1-2 legs a day on the 190, commutable when I bid for it, and my productivity more than makes up for the 10% pay differential. Ymmv based on reserve times. Some guys hired 6 months after me on the 190 had a long reserve sit.
02-14-2018 | 02:53 PM
#57
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Unless you live near Boston, take the Airbus. Seems like the 190 schedules are getting worse and worse. Might get a couple more days off than on the Airbus, but you'll need it to rest up after a double EWR turn day trip. The one perk of the 190 was the shorter upgrade time, and that's gone too.
02-14-2018 | 03:40 PM
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Comparing my days off to bus guys days off, I’d beg to differ. Ive extensively compared my schedules and pay to guys in my pad with similar seniority, and I came out ahead. Significantly when they had been on reserve. I was on reserve for a few months...they were on reserve for 15 months. I bid commutable lines almost right away...they had no visibility on their schedule until the day prior since they were on reserve. When I was on reserve I had lots of long call and PRLs...they didn’t. At the 2 year mark it made sense schedule/money wise to move. But most of my trips are 1-2 legs a day on the 190, commutable when I bid for it, and my productivity more than makes up for the 10% pay differential. Ymmv based on reserve times. Some guys hired 6 months after me on the 190 had a long reserve sit.
02-14-2018 | 05:14 PM
#59
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Bid what you can make the most money on for the QOL. I'd suggest the 717.
717 CA NYC pays $219 first year versus 320 JB $53.
Even if you don't take the first upgrade, 717 FO 2nd year is $118 vs 320 $94 (plus 16% DC and more profit sharing than a captain makes here).
717 CA NYC pays $219 first year versus 320 JB $53.
Even if you don't take the first upgrade, 717 FO 2nd year is $118 vs 320 $94 (plus 16% DC and more profit sharing than a captain makes here).
02-14-2018 | 05:21 PM
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Oh wait thats Delta- B6 has NOTHING to attract pilots.
Well...there is the culture.
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