Hercbubba

Until it comes through official work email, I’ll continue to post what I feel is necessary to make selfish pilots stop picking up RSA and VDA.

If what we say on APC matters, then the MEC would send out an ALPA blast telling us to knock it off? I’ll stop when I get one of those...

say again

Real smart....

Bluedriver

For what it's worth, I believe this is an authentic MEC communication. Not through normal channels, which is not JB email but to your personal email account. But, still came from a member of the MEC.

I strongly suggest you not publicly call for actions that adversely affect JB Corp. I literally think the company wants you to do so. No, I'm not kidding.

pilotpayne

They want ammo and any excuse to hit back at us. This was talked about over and over on BP. You just can’t go and call for anything like that.

queue

" Make no mistake, we are now deeply entrenched in a labor dispute. We must continue to strengthen our unity while letting management know that the well of pilot goodwill has run dry. Remember, our duties as JetBlue pilots are clearly spelled out in the company manuals and federal regulations. Nowhere are we required to make standup PAs, don blue gloves and clean the aircraft, or go outside of our normal job description. Nor will any of these acts of pilot generosity help us achieve a market-rate contract. "

While I like what they said in this message (despite no actual results demonstrated), they need to clarify what "donning the blue gloves" really means.

• On a trip = No blue gloves

• Commuting to/from work = don blue gloves

I keep emphasizing this because we have no legal resolution or even a union sponsored grievance against blue gloves when we get a ride to/from work, even if we're in uniform.

feltf4

Lol, seen no commuting pilot clean a plane.

PasserOGas

NEVER clean the plane while commuting. Not a job action since you aren't at work. I think they know that is a losing court battle if they enforce it.

Please come and get me Joanna, I *******ing dare you. Labor attorney on standby. I NEVER clean the panes.

Bluedriver

Agreed.

They have no use for an expensive pilot CBA. Their business plan is working amazing without one, and they have no intention of changing the current arrangement anytime soon.

They would literally prefer to sue JBALPA and drag our pilots name through the mud to delay a CBA, so don't give them an opportunity...

Besides, they desperately need someone else to blame besides ATC and hurricanes.

Do NOT make public statements calling for illegal job actions. Period.

queue

I don't suppose you could talk to this labor attorney and ask him to press JB on it? I think he ought to sue on behalf of all pilots (particularly since ALPA will not do anything about this policy). If it is, in fact, not enforceable for JB to make us work in compensation for non-rev benefits, then why hasn't ALPA sued JB? Wouldn't your attorney stand to make money from JB even if they took the case for free? I don't care if he gets 100% of the settlement. In fact, if he wins, I hope he does take all the settlement. I just want a line drawn in the sand that has legal authority. I'm not convinced that we can't clean because it's written in documents that we signed (e.g. the training we were blackmailed into completing [complete or no commute]).

This would be meaningful action if this attorney sued JB!!!! It's the ONLY way to get things done with them.

Hercbubba

I just read the ALPA B6 Blast...
If it’s that important to not post on this site, I’m sure they would mentioned it?


“Until then, simply do your job.”

Which to me, means fly you awarded schedule, nothing more, nothing less!

We can say what we want, but no self respecting labor attorney would even bring anything we put on a anonymous site to the mediator, when we aren’t organizing a work stoppage...telling people to do your job, nothing more, nothing less means don’t pick up RSA or VDA!

Whoever does, is taking money out of all our pockets to fill their own selfish, greedy spending habits!