Here is the way the courts see it. Any union member is by extension and expression of said organization. Whatever you do as an individual member can and has been used to demonstrate concerted job action.

And let’s face it while most pilots are smart they are no intellectualls when it comes to these matters .
So let it go

 

You hurt the process by willfully disregarding a simple request to show unity within the group. You are just as much a part of the problem.

 

Good luck to all...hope we get a contract?

 

There - fixed it for you.
DM speaks truth.....

 

Wait...your pilots have to clean the plane? This is a joke, right?

 

No, we don't have to clean the plane.

 

Yes, we do, if we use our non-revenue flight benefits.

In other words, to fly for free on JB, we are required to help clean the plane.

Not joking. Not sure why Say again didn't add the full response.

 

We absolutely ARE expected to clean the aircraft if we are non-revving and according to the company, when we are deadheading. Not while operating the flight however.

Weather we do it or not is an individual descision.

I choose not to pitch in.

Buy yes......we are pilots and the company would very much like us to dig through seat back pockets with gloves on.

 

JetBlue pilots are expected to clean if going to work, coming home from work, generally known as non-reving. They even mentioned cleaning whether you are traveling for "business or pleasure". The *only* time you are not expected to clean is when you working the flight.

The worst part is that they basically blackmailed everyone into it. They made everyone take an online training. At the end of the training, it made you sign your name and initials. You agreed to cleaning or else you lose your non-rev privileges.

Imagine that! A company that cares about culture and humanity yet they FORCE YOU to agree to something knowing full well that without it, you can't commute to work!

There was no opposition from the union or JetBlue pilots because the policy is still in place and worst of all, we were all coerced into signing it or basically we can't get to work.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. JB succeeded in making pilots do this. Where will it end? Will they make us clean the lavatories or else they take away our non-rev/jumpseat privileges? Legally, nothing is stopping them as long as we keep signing the legal documents and we don't oppose them with lawsuits. They know this!

 

Exactly! Don’t make the same mistake as some pilots at Spirit. In the TRO, it shows messages posted on APC. Someone went as far as publicly shaming those who picked up OT, with their full names.