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Old 03-07-2018 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Nope just during contract negotiations is all I care about. Because our mec asked us too and to show support for them and their work.
Thank god I hate the thing, but I wear it.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 03:22 AM
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Don’t worry about shaming RSA, VDA and ‘Helpers Out’. They’re out in full force. They’re ability to buck the MEC guidance prevails.

Yesterday. I timed out.But never fear a crew was found in a nearby motel who graciously called CS back and accepted a “great deal guys”!

This was after I was verbally confronted by the gate agent who told me I was going to “inconvenience all these people”. Then, had customers verbally inject their disgust at my willingness to follow Federal Regulation in regards to FDP. it was a great time to be a professional at BJ.

But, hey that crew “got their $$ good deal”. I got a min rest night and this AM into a 2.5 hour limo to my next two flights.

Things are great guys. Love the unity.

-Bubs
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Old 03-08-2018 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Don’t worry about shaming RSA, VDA and ‘Helpers Out’. They’re out in full force. They’re ability to buck the MEC guidance prevails.

Yesterday. I timed out.But never fear a crew was found in a nearby motel who graciously called CS back and accepted a “great deal guys”!

This was after I was verbally confronted by the gate agent who told me I was going to “inconvenience all these people”. Then, had customers verbally inject their disgust at my willingness to follow Federal Regulation in regards to FDP. it was a great time to be a professional at BJ.

But, hey that crew “got their $$ good deal”. I got a min rest night and this AM into a 2.5 hour limo to my next two flights.

Things are great guys. Love the unity.

-Bubs
First, the MEC guidance says NOTHING about RSA/VDA. Please stop hinting that it does. I really want to go on strike and you are f@&#ing that up.

The gate agent called you out in front of the passengers? Wow. I would have had a talk with the CP about that.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Don’t worry about shaming RSA, VDA and ‘Helpers Out’. They’re out in full force. They’re ability to buck the MEC guidance prevails.

Yesterday. I timed out.But never fear a crew was found in a nearby motel who graciously called CS back and accepted a “great deal guys”!

This was after I was verbally confronted by the gate agent who told me I was going to “inconvenience all these people”. Then, had customers verbally inject their disgust at my willingness to follow Federal Regulation in regards to FDP. it was a great time to be a professional at BJ.

But, hey that crew “got their $$ good deal”. I got a min rest night and this AM into a 2.5 hour limo to my next two flights.

Things are great guys. Love the unity.

-Bubs
I agree with the gas-passer.

Guys, it's about to get ugly, possibly legally ugly. I personally know of current termination that doesn't smell very good. Listen to the Spirit guys that have posted here recently. Don't underestimate what the company may be willing to do to continue saving hundreds of millions of dollars.

We CANNOT publicly shame the RSA/VDA/overtime crowd. It is illegal and I do NOT believe the MECs recent communication was a timing coincidence.

We must self-police and ensure no public calls for a job-action are made or allowed to stand without a strong group rebuke.

We (I) do not condone illegal job actions against JB, including public shaming of the RSA/VDA guys.

As the recent union communication says, it is becoming apparent (just now, are you kidding?) that management is digging in the heels for a long struggle. Think about that.... Just *now*, after most of you thought we would already have a deal done, management is digging in their heels for a long struggle!

SOP, as our union and our *chief pilot* have told us to do.

And we need to watch for shark posters and unusual activity.

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Old 03-08-2018 | 07:39 AM
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I will never stop shaming...Spirit got called out, and they got a deal within 7 months. I see that as a good thing.

This is a forum...we can say what we want. Work, don’t work...email the CEO, who cares. No matter what everyone thinks on here, nobody at the mediation board cares. No self respecting attorney is going to use anonymous quotes from a chat room to come to a decision about a contract.

So once again...stop picking up RSA and VDA. It’s pretty simple.

The worst that can happen, is the company drags it’s feet. If we don’t stop doing VDA, RDA, the worst thing that will happen, is the company drags it’s feet. It’s a lose-lose situation either way!

APC is a great lace to air your frustrations, and that’s about all it’s good for!

I’m off till Saturday, so I’m going skiing. Enjoy your RSA and VDA pay!
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Old 03-08-2018 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hercbubba
I will never stop shaming...Spirit got called out, and they got a deal within 7 months. I see that as a good thing.

This is a forum...we can say what we want. Work, don’t work...email the CEO, who cares. No matter what everyone thinks on here, nobody at the mediation board cares. No self respecting attorney is going to use anonymous quotes from a chat room to come to a decision about a contract.

So once again...stop picking up RSA and VDA. It’s pretty simple.

The worst that can happen, is the company drags it’s feet. If we don’t stop doing VDA, RDA, the worst thing that will happen, is the company drags it’s feet. It’s a lose-lose situation either way!

APC is a great lace to air your frustrations, and that’s about all it’s good for!

I’m off till Saturday, so I’m going skiing. Enjoy your RSA and VDA pay!


Oh they have used quotes from the internet.
I sat through an ALPA presentation at ALPA HQ talking about this very thing and how it can and WILL be used against the pilot group. It has been done. Now you can refuse to believe it all you want but ALPA would disagree so you tell me who is right.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hercbubba
I will never stop shaming...Spirit got called out, and they got a deal within 7 months. I see that as a good thing.

This is a forum...we can say what we want. Work, don’t work...email the CEO, who cares. No matter what everyone thinks on here, nobody at the mediation board cares. No self respecting attorney is going to use anonymous quotes from a chat room to come to a decision about a contract.

So once again...stop picking up RSA and VDA. It’s pretty simple.

The worst that can happen, is the company drags it’s feet. If we don’t stop doing VDA, RDA, the worst thing that will happen, is the company drags it’s feet. It’s a lose-lose situation either way!

APC is a great lace to air your frustrations, and that’s about all it’s good for!

I’m off till Saturday, so I’m going skiing. Enjoy your RSA and VDA pay!
You are so wrong dude. Your MEC has asked you to stop publicly shaming the overtime crowd, understand they know more than you do.

And you are not anonymous the moment JB files a lawsuit against JBALPA for inciting illegal job-actions against the company. APC will be required to turn over your IP address and sign up info including email address.

If you think I'm wrong, you simply don't know what you don't know.

So, follow MEC guidance and stop publicly shaming the RSA/VDA crowd.

FYI, I have never done an RSA/VDA and you KNOW I'm not a company cheerleader.

Respectfully.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
There is a little more to that story.
JG was talking at some leadership thing in jfk.
She was saying how everyone needs to help and we can’t hire cleaners (bs)
A flight attendant pushed back saying they had someone from HQ that got on never introduced themselves and got off without helping.
So one of her own wouldn’t even help. That’s when she asked for a name. The FA balked at that and kept pushing her (future leader of their union) it went downhill from there.

The union has said we are not REQUIRED to clean while operating or DH.....the end .....full stop.
Not full stop... yes, we all know we're not cleaning while working. However, the issue is while commuting to and from work.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
Negative. I defend logic and reason. I oppose rhetoric and illogical emotion. Again, you interpret that as defending the company, when all I'm doing is asking for people to keep their heads on straight and not exaggerate things merely because they are emotional. Your interpretation is incorrect. You take ANY pushback against the rhetoric as full support for the opposite side.

I've said over and over again that we absolutely need a CBA, and we need it yesterday. *****I was wrong about the timing*****, and I lost a bunch of money and Scotch with those bets.
You weren't wrong about the timing, you were trying to do nuclear physicist math calculations with a crayon and a posted note... Well *after* you thought the CBA would be done our union says the company is digging in it's heels for a *long struggle*!

You're a real Rocket Surgeon.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
Not full stop... yes, we all know we're not cleaning while working. However, the issue is while commuting to and from work.
Correct. Do not exclude important information. Not required to clean while on duty, ABSOLUTELY required to clean while commuting and non-revenue.

Now full stop.
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